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Old 11-15-2006, 10:31 PM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #11
 
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Ok this might seem really simple and 'nooby' but how do you set barrows, farrows and sarrows?
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:04 PM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #12
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Right click and drag :thup:
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Old 11-16-2006, 01:19 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #13
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It seems to me that sarrows only come into affect when your team HAS the ball, feel free to say you have experienced otherwise.....

When I played a back 3 using the Ajax formation I had sarrows on the outer DC's. When in possession the DC's would stay tight and when I had the ball the outer DC's would then play as fullbacks. Of course if a winger was attacking down one side then the DC on that side would move out to close him down, HOWEVER, this happens in a back 3 even without sarrows. This leads me to believe that sarrows are only in effect when my team has possession.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has noticed this.
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:50 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #14
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It seems to me that sarrows only come into affect when your team HAS the ball, feel free to say you have experienced otherwise.....

When I played a back 3 using the Ajax formation I had sarrows on the outer DC's. When in possession the DC's would stay tight and when I had the ball the outer DC's would then play as fullbacks. Of course if a winger was attacking down one side then the DC on that side would move out to close him down, HOWEVER, this happens in a back 3 even without sarrows. This leads me to believe that sarrows are only in effect when my team has possession.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has noticed this.
I have my DC with a inside sarrow because that way they don't allow a hole in the middle of my 4-back. So you made me doubt and I decided to do an experiment: I moved up my FB and place my DCs as FB the I sarrow'ed inwardly to see what would happen. Without possession they took their usual position as DC's. I think natural position of the player plus space allowed by teammates could have an influence in sarrows (maybe in farrows/barrows?). But anyway, sarrows work defensively as well.
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Old 11-16-2006, 05:00 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #15
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by panomaniac:
It seems to me that sarrows only come into affect when your team HAS the ball, feel free to say you have experienced otherwise.....

When I played a back 3 using the Ajax formation I had sarrows on the outer DC's. When in possession the DC's would stay tight and when I had the ball the outer DC's would then play as fullbacks. Of course if a winger was attacking down one side then the DC on that side would move out to close him down, HOWEVER, this happens in a back 3 even without sarrows. This leads me to believe that sarrows are only in effect when my team has possession.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has noticed this.
I have my DC with a inside sarrow because that way they don't allow a hole in the middle of my 4-back. So you made me doubt and I decided to do an experiment: I moved up my FB and place my DCs as FB the I sarrow'ed inwardly to see what would happen. Without possession they took their usual position as DC's. I think natural position of the player plus space allowed by teammates could have an influence in sarrows (maybe in farrows/barrows?). But anyway, sarrows work defensively as well. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Cheers for clearing that up with your experiment.

However, I still find that with strikers if I have a FL with an inward sarrow, he stays wide in defence and then moves infield in attack.

Maybe this has something to do with the FL recognising that he can help out in defence by closing down the fullback, I'm really not sure to be honest...
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Old 11-16-2006, 05:13 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #16
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panomaniac...brilliant.

You're right, whenever you play a forward with an inside sarrow, he does drop back as far as to support the midfield. I found that out too when I was working on my tactics. The Forward with the sarrow outwards, however does not seem to go down as deep as the insarrowed one
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Old 11-16-2006, 05:14 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #17
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I was wondering if anyone else had noticed this, cos I tot it was maybe my player..now I'm certain thats the way it works cos you've seen it happen as well.
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Old 11-16-2006, 09:24 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #18
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I've never used an inside sarrow, but i will go try in a bit
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Old 11-16-2006, 09:27 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #19
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panomaniac...brilliant.

You're right, whenever you play a forward with an inside sarrow, he does drop back as far as to support the midfield. I found that out too when I was working on my tactics. The Forward with the sarrow outwards, however does not seem to go down as deep as the insarrowed one
Cheers mate, not an isolated incident either, tried it in my new game with Carlisle just now and had a similar effect so it looks as if this is how it works - for the inside sarrowed forward.
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Old 11-16-2006, 09:28 AM   Barrows, Farrows and Sarrows, just what exactly they? Post #20
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The Sarrows definitely work defensively too, to give you another example I gave both my FC's a short SBarrow (thats a new one) to the AMR/L position and they dropped back and to the wings when I didn't have the ball.

You've got to remember too that other factors influence all of this debate, namely a players favoured moves i.e moving out to the wings
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