vineela

say if you're at a top division club (premiership, serie a etc) and you have a promising youth player, would you:
-play him in your youth squad with occasional 1st team game
-send him out on loan to a lower division feeder club (championship, serie b etc)

the problem with playing him in the u18 squad is the player goes on youth training. lets also assume that there are enough older reliable players in the team available for the time being.

retired_jwwbrennan

i would keep him in youth team buddy, dont rush genius's!

GreenRage

I always tend to send them on loan to a team that will use him as a first team regular if they have fairly good training facilities.

The lower grade facilities are counter balanced by the increase in matches played.

Always have can be recalled ticked and pull them home if they are not being played.

if they don't meet these stringent critera they get to stay at my team.

vineela

which would you chose, assuming they will play them as a "first team":
-premiership with good training
-championship with top training

i'm leaning towards the premiership one because its premiership experience but then championship has better training.

GreenRage

If he is good enough to play in the top flight (i.e. premiership) then I would always play him in my team as a first choice. He will improve fast, usually in one season.

If he is not quite there, then I would always go for the Championship loan, but again only if the message indicates he will be a part of the first team, I never send them where they will be backups.

vineela

im choosing feeder clubs atm and have the 2 above choices.

the thing with 1st team games at my club is that he wouldnt get anything like regular games to keep match fit as the first team squad/reserves pretty much pick themselves.

vineela

or would you send to a club that you've not loaded but is in a top league..

GreenRage

It is still my opinion that it is better to be playing regular first team football at a club with lower training facilities than it is to be stuck in the reserves league.

I would consider a team from a none loaded league, if they were good, but I have never had that offer.

retired_choden

I've sent players to a feeder club I had in the Turkisk Super League (wasn't loaded) with good training facilities where they got in the first team. They improved a lot there. :thup:

retired_blair

This is the part of any football game that I enjoy most, trying to improve my own youngsters until they'r ready to step up into the 1st team. In my latest game with Celtic I have 3 generations of teams lined up (1st team,reserve,under19) in the hope that with the proper development I can produce a sort of conveyer belt effect - 1st team player leaves > reserve team player replaces > etc...

I dont think there are any hard and fast rules about whether or not a player should be developed at home or shipped out for 1st team experience.

If you have got a good training setup (facilities,coaches,programmes) then it might be worth holding on to your youngsters. I would recommend this for your younger players,anyone younger than 18 probably. One important thing to mention here regarding my conveyer belt system - set your reserves and under19's to play the same match tactics as your 1st team. That way you can see who is capable of playing certain roles in the team.

Now for the benefits of loaning players out. I am of the opinion that players of 18yrs and up need to start getting regular 1st team football,these are players who are in my reserve team and not quite ready for the 1st team. I am generally inclined to loan players out to teams in the division below mine on the strict provision that they are going to get a game, I'm not sending my boys out to sit on the bench at Ross County when they could be getting proper training at home. I feel that by sending them out to a lower level of team than mine then they are almost guaranteed a game, they are going to be relatively important players and they are going to gain confidence against weaker opposition.

In the Scottish game you only have to look to the likes of Charlie Adam and Anthony Stokes to see the merits of players going out on loan to a team where they are a big fish in a small pond. If managing one of the bigger teams in the game then a lot of your young reserves will be in high demand...I would let them go. This may deplete your reserve team but I tended to fill my reserves with 1st team fringe players needing match fitness. If you dont do this then some of your under19's will be playing for the reserves and the under19's - this is not going to help a players development.