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Old 12-07-2006, 12:23 AM   Focussing passing analysis Post #21
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cleon:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:

<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
I sure do. It is one of my greatest pleasures to create a solution for every move the AI make. Changing focus is the first tool out of the box.
Ahh sorry, I thought above you meant you forced them to adapt to your style of play. I didn't realsie you change to counter them.

Yep, I change to counter. The AI change to recounter. As long as this process does not end in 4-1-4-1 I'm fine.

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My only problem is when the AI revert to a 4-1-4-1. That is my headache. I don't lose, but so far I haven't been able to come up with an answer from which I can score consistently from open play
Do they win the midfield battle, is this where the problem lies? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really. Well the AI get the occasional foot on the ball and clear. Then I have to begin the build up again. But that is not the problem. The problem is:

When I use the flanks there is no space for my wingers. The few times they beat the FB the box is crowded and my strikers are under too much pressure.

When I play direct through middle to my TM, his flick on's are usually picked up by the FBs and cleared.

Advice would really be appreciated, cause I think the AI is building a dosier on my tactic with massive statistic proof that 4-1-4-1 will keep it from conceeding. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You tried playing really wide to create space in the box? as you will force the fullbacks to go wide and mark you, if they don;t then you get a free cross in.

For the targetman I have mine on a normal 11 mentality and have him hold up the ball, and give him short passing, he then normally knocks it into the patch of my other striker running onto the ball. I score loads of goals like this, atleast 1 every other match </BLOCKQUOTE>

My TM is the same. 11 mentality, hold up ball, passing is short (6).

I haven't experiemented with width above 16, but it is worth a go.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:26 AM   Focussing passing analysis Post #22
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:

<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
I sure do. It is one of my greatest pleasures to create a solution for every move the AI make. Changing focus is the first tool out of the box.
Ahh sorry, I thought above you meant you forced them to adapt to your style of play. I didn't realsie you change to counter them.

Yep, I change to counter. The AI change to recounter. As long as this process does not end in 4-1-4-1 I'm fine.

Quote:
Originally posted by Ans Gulrik
My only problem is when the AI revert to a 4-1-4-1. That is my headache. I don't lose, but so far I haven't been able to come up with an answer from which I can score consistently from open play
Do they win the midfield battle, is this where the problem lies? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really. Well the AI get the occasional foot on the ball and clear. Then I have to begin the build up again. But that is not the problem. The problem is:

When I use the flanks there is no space for my wingers. The few times they beat the FB the box is crowded and my strikers are under too much pressure.

When I play direct through middle to my TM, his flick on's are usually picked up by the FBs and cleared.

Advice would really be appreciated, cause I think the AI is building a dosier on my tactic with massive statistic proof that 4-1-4-1 will keep it from conceeding. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You tried playing really wide to create space in the box? as you will force the fullbacks to go wide and mark you, if they don;t then you get a free cross in.

For the targetman I have mine on a normal 11 mentality and have him hold up the ball, and give him short passing, he then normally knocks it into the patch of my other striker running onto the ball. I score loads of goals like this, atleast 1 every other match </BLOCKQUOTE>

My TM is the same. 11 mentality, hold up ball, passing is short (6).

I haven't experiemented with width above 16, but it is worth a go. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe its the 2nd strikers instructions at fault then? have him slightly higher on 13 so hes in the place for the knock ons.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:36 AM   Focussing passing analysis Post #23
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cleon:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:

<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ans Gulrik:
I sure do. It is one of my greatest pleasures to create a solution for every move the AI make. Changing focus is the first tool out of the box.
Ahh sorry, I thought above you meant you forced them to adapt to your style of play. I didn't realsie you change to counter them.

Yep, I change to counter. The AI change to recounter. As long as this process does not end in 4-1-4-1 I'm fine.

Quote:
Originally posted by Ans Gulrik
My only problem is when the AI revert to a 4-1-4-1. That is my headache. I don't lose, but so far I haven't been able to come up with an answer from which I can score consistently from open play
Do they win the midfield battle, is this where the problem lies? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really. Well the AI get the occasional foot on the ball and clear. Then I have to begin the build up again. But that is not the problem. The problem is:

When I use the flanks there is no space for my wingers. The few times they beat the FB the box is crowded and my strikers are under too much pressure.

When I play direct through middle to my TM, his flick on's are usually picked up by the FBs and cleared.

Advice would really be appreciated, cause I think the AI is building a dosier on my tactic with massive statistic proof that 4-1-4-1 will keep it from conceeding. </BLOCKQUOTE>

You tried playing really wide to create space in the box? as you will force the fullbacks to go wide and mark you, if they don;t then you get a free cross in.

For the targetman I have mine on a normal 11 mentality and have him hold up the ball, and give him short passing, he then normally knocks it into the patch of my other striker running onto the ball. I score loads of goals like this, atleast 1 every other match </BLOCKQUOTE>

My TM is the same. 11 mentality, hold up ball, passing is short (6).

I haven't experiemented with width above 16, but it is worth a go. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe its the 2nd strikers instructions at fault then? have him slightly higher on 13 so hes in the place for the knock ons. </BLOCKQUOTE>

My second striker is on 13 mentality already, and vs. all the other formations I do score quite a few. My lfarrowed DM is also running on to quite a few knock ons. Just doesn't work to my satisfaction vs. the 4-1-4-1.

But I'm going to experiement with 18-20 width.
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