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Old 02-08-2008, 05:34 PM   Individual Stats - The Discussion Post #21
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A good freekick taker needs composure, technique and decisions imo
Agree. My question is what free kick stats along means if player cannot accurately pass, cross or shoot from distance?
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<BLOCKQUOTE>A good freekick taker needs composure, technique and decisions imo
Agree. My question is what free kick stats along means if player cannot accurately pass, cross or shoot from distance? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I think thats the freekick stat itself. As long as they have technique and composure they can normally score a fair few.
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:14 PM   Individual Stats - The Discussion Post #23
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Just jumping back to the mental attributes...

I can strongly suggest that when looking to bring new players in, it's well worth looking at players with strong overall mental attributes.

I rarely sign players with mental attributes below 10, across the board. My teams "gel" quicker and play better as a unit. A strong team "mentally" is also easier to work with morale-wise generally speaking.

I find it's far easier to implement tactics and tactical changes with a mentally strong squad also.

Flair... Pah!! Dribbling...For babies...

Give me determination, composure, etc anytime! :thup:
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:43 PM   Individual Stats - The Discussion Post #24
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Communication: - This makes the defense play better, as a unit if the keeper as a high attribute for this stat. It's his way of organising the defence and getting his orders across to them.
Hi Cleon, I enjoy your threads and thought I`d comment on this.

If communication for a GK means they make the defence play better (read: defence organization), why does one not see the personal statement "Thinks Mr. Goalkeeper organizes the defence well" from other players?

Or does it occur, and only I have not seen it yet?

I always thought the communication stat shows how the keeper communicates to players in stressed situations, and for example when and when not to play the goalie as a last resort.

The outfield players should also have a value for communication, I think. But it`s covered through others stats?
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:26 PM   Individual Stats - The Discussion Post #25
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If communication for a GK means they make the defence play better (read: defence organization), why does one not see the personal statement "Thinks Mr. Goalkeeper organizes the defence well" from other players?
It does occur. In FM07 Ustari was the best example - in a couple seasons all my defenders would say that. Though, since it occurs in a good relationship line, players should also like GK.
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Hidden ATTRIBUTES

Adaptability: - How quick someone might settle into a new team, area, surroundings etc. Also helps for training new positions.

Ambition: - It determines if the player may see your club as a stepping stone,

Controvesy: - How controverse he is off the field, so he might be one who may slag you off in the press.

Loyalty: - How loyal he is

Pressure: - How he handles pressure in and off the field. This is about scoring that all important penalty kick, how he plays that championship final, etc.

Professionalism: - Even if he isn't in the first team , will he still be 100% committed.

Sportsmanship: - Its about his character on and off the field. How sporting his conduct is.

Temperament: - How likely is he to see the red mist. If someone does a challenge and he doesn't like it, will he react? Or if you say he's playing bad in the press, will he fly off the handle?

Sure I've missed some hidden ones

The ones you posted are hidden mental traits for a player.

The hidden attributes

Consistency

Dirtiness

Important matchs

Injury Proneness

Versatility

Iv only just started reading the forum again cleon mate and this is a great thread a lot of new players to fm struggle understanding the stats by linking stats together may give managers a diffrent view on stats they would see as none important for players.

PS: Do you have this as a sticky on the forum? if not i think it would make a great read for new players to the game coz in the past iv come across alot of misleading threads just dismissing stats for certain postions in the team keep up the great work cleon mate
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I have some different opinions on a few

Aerial Ability IMO it does not decide where the keeper decides where to jump for the ball. This is down to decisions IMO (I have done some test that sugest I am right but they were not conclusive). This is his ability to save, catch or punch a ball when both feet are off the ground.

Reflexes "This determines how good a keeper is at closed ranged shots where he might not have time to think and just reacts." This I agree with 100%. Agility does not influence reflexes IMO but go very well together becasue a reflex save will just block the shot and the ball will bounce away from the gk agility is his ability to recover ready to save the next shot.

Throwing I thought this was how far the gk could throw the ball.

I am off to bed now I have gone through goalkeeping attributes I will go through the rest tomorrow. Another good thread by the way
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I know that last year (FM07), height and weight had NO effect whatsoever on the pitch, is this still true?

Unless this was changed without me knowing, that means that 20 jumping on ANYONE will be the best jumper - no matter the height.
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i believe both weight and height do have an effect on the pitch. i tried playing koller and crouch. and the number of headers they win is very high, especially so against defenders who are way shorter.

as for weight, i think it's something like that...if player A and player B has the same strength, but player A is heavier than player B, it is possible that player can knock player B away from the ball since he is heavier than player B.
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