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Old 11-08-2007, 07:26 PM   Should FM09 be released in 2009? Post #31
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gundo:
Some of these bugs weren't always present SI has stated on numerous occasions. The thing is... It isn't the testers not doing their job properly, some of these bugs surfaced when they tweaked other issues within the game, thus causing unexpected knock-on effects.
Weren't always present? 95% of the board members are ranting about these bugs every min on here. Look in the bugs forum.

I understand there are knock on affects there always is always will. But the thing is the obvious bugs weren't delt with to the point where they didn't or couldnt exist.

Take for ex the fiest patch fixed the closing down bug. The 2nd patch brought it back it.

It was obvious SI didnt do any testing to see if bugs reappeared. </BLOCKQUOTE>

That's becaue 95% or the board members are either irrational or 14 or both. Fact of the matter is, to get the same amount of feedback from their normal testing procedure as they do in the first DAY of release, would take months.

Simply put, people need to be realistic, but I guess everyone just thinks they are too good to wait for something.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:33 PM   Should FM09 be released in 2009? Post #32
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Gundo:
Some of these bugs weren't always present SI has stated on numerous occasions. The thing is... It isn't the testers not doing their job properly, some of these bugs surfaced when they tweaked other issues within the game, thus causing unexpected knock-on effects.
Weren't always present? 95% of the board members are ranting about these bugs every min on here. Look in the bugs forum.

I understand there are knock on affects there always is always will. But the thing is the obvious bugs weren't delt with to the point where they didn't or couldnt exist.

Take for ex the fiest patch fixed the closing down bug. The 2nd patch brought it back it.

It was obvious SI didnt do any testing to see if bugs reappeared. </BLOCKQUOTE>

95% of the board members? That's just not true at all, I don't know where you got that figure from?

And as for the first patch fixing closing down issue and the second one brought it back? There hasn't been a final patch released yet, the one's you speak of are just 'Beta' and aren't 100% finished, it's just a tester version not normally made available to the public.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:22 AM   Should FM09 be released in 2009? Post #33
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Nah y'all got this wrong. SI should forget about Football Manager Live and concentrate on FM.

I dont really see what the fuss was with FML I mean people paying a monthly fee to play online?

That already exists with FM and network games.
Totally agree. Also IMO if i wanted to play Deranged Walruses Utd vs Sammy's Allstars id play Hattrick or Sunday League or some other online management game
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:32 AM   Should FM09 be released in 2009? Post #34
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The problem with releasing it later is that they lose a lot of customers to the rival games which will certaainly not be delaying their games.

Would be a massive financial blow for SI and they may not be able to deal with it.

On a side note, Fred the Red talking so much rubbish in this thread it's unbelievable. Amazing lack of understanding.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:39 AM   Should FM09 be released in 2009? Post #35
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To me it feels the testing is done now by board members rather then beta testers in the development stage. This is why the board is full of angery people waiting for a decent patch. Not only are we doing the testing for free but we have to pay SI £24.99 to do the testing for them.
This is probably going to be like bashing my head against a wall but in no way did you have to pay SI for testing. There was a bloody demo you know. It was free.
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:38 PM   Should FM09 be released in 2009? Post #36
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Pity you cant update the game in anyway huh &lt;/sarcasm&gt;
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:01 PM   Should FM09 be released in 2009? Post #37
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Heres a thought.

Release the game in October, and for those people who lack confidence in the game, dont buy it until its been patched.

That way people like me who find the game perfectly playable now can play it and those who cant will get the polished game they desire.
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