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Old 02-07-2008, 08:27 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #1
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I have a player on non-contract that I want to get rid of.
He is a decent player but he's surplus and I need to cut his large wages.

His profile says he is contracted for the season (?) and he has no value.

I tried offering him a slightly reduced wage for the season - (contract better than non-contract?). He refused.

I have tried offering him to clubs for £1k, but there's no interest whatsoever.
(It's probably right that I can't sell a player not contracted to me though).

I considered terminating his contract - but it said I would have to pay £14k compensation (a season's worth!).

So I offered him mutual termination but he is unwilling to leave.

Surely he would prefer the security of a contract to a non-contract?
Isn't the point of non-contracts that the club or the player can part ways if either feel like it? No compensation.


I offered him to clubs for £0.
Suddenly huge interest (there had been not a flicker before).
He signed elsewhere for lower wages and his value instantly became £4k.

In FM we are screwed with non-contracted players - we can't terminate (properly) and we can't sell.
If he had been a rubbish player that no club had wanted I would have been stuck with him and his ridiculous salary.
So what's the point of non-contracts?
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:28 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #2
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What is a non-contract? I've never heard of, nor seen of this before..
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:38 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #3
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Most part-time players in real life are on non-contracts.

In FM08, check Rob Wesley at Boston United.
In the squad page, click view contracts. Note the N/C.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:45 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #4
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I think it means that he is under 18 (for a professional contract) and also he has signed a pre-contract with the coaching staff before you arrived (usually up to 3 years if they are a 16 year old).

This feature is a nightmare when you are taking over the lower level teams. I hate it frankly. Sometimes, I just take the hit on the termination so I can recapture his wage on the salary budget so I can find another player who plays for a pittance and actually makes my starting lineup.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:52 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #5
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It's nothing to do with age - it's a contract status I can set as a researcher. Being non-contract, they should be able to be released without compensation, or 'poached' with 7 days notice.
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Quote:
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What is a non-contract? I've never heard of, nor seen of this before..
Non-contracs are never not-found in unfootball.
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Old 02-07-2008, 10:07 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scotty Walds:
It's nothing to do with age - it's a contract status I can set as a researcher. Being non-contract, they should be able to be released without compensation, or 'poached' with 7 days notice.
So the termination and mutual-compensation behaviors Half-time Orange described are broken, then?
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Old 02-07-2008, 10:10 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by Amaroq:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Scotty Walds:
It's nothing to do with age - it's a contract status I can set as a researcher. Being non-contract, they should be able to be released without compensation, or 'poached' with 7 days notice.
So the termination and mutual-compensation behaviors Half-time Orange described are broken, then? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep.

Basically, for Non Contract players, any club who wants to sign them can discuss terms at any time. Once agreed, they can then put in a '7 Day Letter' to their current club, informing them that they intend to move in 7 days time.
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Old 02-07-2008, 10:32 PM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #9
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That's not quite true. The 7 day notice is given, and on that 7th day can the club discuss terms
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:14 AM   Non-Contracts - surely these are completely wrong? Post #10
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Non-contract terms have never worked right in FM.
I don't think it'll be fixed any time soon as it has processing implications I believe.
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