retired_erik86

there's far too much tweaking of tactics needed. the problem is u cant even stick to a home tactic or away tactic coz it'll jus get destroyed even if the opposition is leagues below u. i loved the older cm's allot better, there was less fluctuation in terms of the tactics you'd end up using.

retired_genceryarkin

Just thought I'd add my point here, I agree with the fact that the tactics side of the game has become too engrossed. I don't want to sit there for hours on end having to 'tinker' with my tactics, why can't I set up a tactic and leave it and concentrate on picking a winning team, and signing quality players and prospects for the future?

As far as I'm concerned SI have moved the goalposts this year, but they have moved them too far and imo made the game near unplayable. Some parts of the game have made me feel like it's a chore just trying to get through the season, there are some parts of the game I can't help but feel are pointless and get very repetitive ie pre-match media talks, and tbh the pre-match, half-time and post-match team talks are pretty much pointless as whatever I seem to say to my team has a negative effect on them. I too have tried downloading other tactics which claim to be the ultimate tactics and near unbeatable, all with no avail.

One option I raised in another thread was that maybe they could introduce an option whereby you can choose your tactics level when setting your game up with an option of Detailed or Simple.

From what I can gather about 25% of those posting on here aren't particularly happy with the game, and I feel that SI need to take some note on these issues that are being raised.

retired_mully

Hmmm well i have had the same thoughts, i like the game 07 just as it is, infact all these features are fantastics, but as in another post i stated, i'm not Arsne, i can cope with players getitng moody and w/e i sell them or sort it out, but i think tatical wise si could add a level, but only on tatics not the whole game.
Or prehaps the pre-set tatics could be abit more detailed. I don't know i am not a game designer. But i agree that alot of people are unhappy, and that in the future they should look at this.

I always wonder myself about the poor people without the internet, or who never realised about the si forums, because they'd be even more stuffed than myself for the last 2 seasons of this game. I still think the game itself is fantastic, just focussed too much on tatics, which i actually find a boring part of the game, more than likely because i can't get them right, i won't deny it. Any other opinions on this btw?

retired_mairamedina

as much as i like the computer figuring out my tactics, it really does feel like a chore this year to have to find the "right" way to play, otherwise you get hammered.

so much so i just can't bring myself to play it, knowing full well that i'll be sitting around in the tactics screen for ages changing stuff around to win a game.

great game, perhaps i need to give up work for a while

retired_ladymkali

I'd agree that the tactics are killing the game a bit, I've played 06 so much theres nothing left to achieve (1400+ manager points) so i want to stick with 07. I don't think complaining will bring about a change though. Wait till they see sales drop off then they'll have no choice unless they want a competitor to judge the market right and take their place (which would be a crying shame).

They must adapt the game so that players who want to tweak and fine tune their tactics stay interested and get that added realism they're searching for. They must also make sure it's still fun for the rest of us who don't have hours to waste looking at the same ten sliders wondering what on earths going wrong each match.

This is the first time ever this series has produced a new game that i was less pleased with than the last one. At the end of the day computer games are about entertainment and fun not just realism.

Thats my 2 pence anyway

retired_mabenge

In that case may I recommend you play something easier for you like FIFA 2006 on PES. The game is not to heavy on tactics, you just don't understand the basics of the game, players are definitely not incidental, they are critical. And saying that the game is no good, is like the craftsman blaming the tools cos he doesn't know how to use them I've said it time and time before, keep things simple and you should be ok. </BLOCKQUOTE>
I dunno man... the fact that I can load up someone else's supertactic (not going to get into specifics) and suddenly win 10 matches in a row with my freshly promoted crap team, without tweaking anything says abit about the realism. The main "difficulty" in FM is the 'tactic cracking' there was much talk about a few years ago. After a certain time, a tactic simply becomes useless. And if you want to make your own tactic all the way, the game is too tactic heavy. Sure, you can make the "Go play FIFA Manager" reply, but that's just retarded. Those of us who have bought every single game since 1993 do deserve an input as well, even if we dont feel like spending 7 hours preparing to every match.

I've suggested a difficulty, or rather simulation/arcade option for a while, and seeing that FM series sell less games for every release, I think I might be on to something.

retired_Sassierunner

These are not just "good" threads, they're excellent.

I started a game with Real Madrid, created my tactic, did well in the friendlies, but I didn't have success with it in the League. I finished 10th.

I started a new game, created a new tactic, etc. I finished 9th.

I read all these threads two days ago. I then started creating a new tactic following some of the instructions in the thread. I have played 21 official games as we speak. My team is scoring 2.6 per game, conceding 0.6 per game. Beated Barca 5-2 (I love this game!!!) at home, and I have not conceded in my last 11 games. My only signing is Maduro. Well... I did sign Cardenas but couldn't register him for the season.

Go read the guides, tactic downloaders.

Off topic - on FM06 at the start of each season the game generated lots of players who you could sign for free. When I started my 2nd season on both unsuccessful games, there weren't any. Any ideas?

retired_axejr

Geez what's the point of playing the game, if you can just hop in, use one tactic, buy all the best players, and win everything?

retired_kjcurnyn

While Man u might use the same shape week in week out, they do not use the same isntructions in every game. This is the same on FM, you just need to adpat slightly to accomodate the opposition thats all. Nothing major just thew odd mentality tweak here and there </BLOCKQUOTE>

But at the same time, i've found (as Arsenal) that as long as you are pretty much favourites to win, it's not always important to adjust...


I came second in the league and won the champions league while at first only changing instructions against big teams, and eventually never changing them.

There's something to be said to a plan a only team it seems... They know exactly what they are doing, and when it works it works well...

retired_skullking1971

As manager of Sunderland i created my own tactic, i tweaked depending on who i was playing and during the game when nessessary. I only lost one game in the first 21, won 9 games on the bounce at one stage and it was built on a fantastic defence. I rarely scored loads of goals but i quite easily scored between 1 - 3 everygame but i conceded very few keeping lots of clean sheets.
However, since then i can't keep a clean sheet no matter what. Also i really struggle to score.
Now remember during that 20 game sequence i tweeaked during almost every game, so why does it suddenly not work?
I concede anything between 3 - 5 goals now with the same defence.
I still create plenty of chances but the G/K stops them now. This is the same if i play Bury in the Cup. WHY???
I've read the re-ranking thread but to me them changes just make it worse.
People keep pointing out that it's a real life simulation, stress in RL football causes grey hairs. Does FM really have to implement that also!!
Come on SI we arn't getting paid thousands of pounds a week to compensate for this stress.

REALITY CHECK - it's a game, try and remember that.