retired_jermiron2

Wow that is long, how come so long if you don't mind me asking? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Ha ha, don't mind at all.

I watch a lot of games in Full match mode.

Actually I was whizzing through the games a bit (OK relatively!) quicker before the patch was released, but since it came out I'm probably watching every second game on full match mode.

Not helping me much at the moment though! Just can't seem to get a grip on things again. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah I understand.

I tend to watch highlights only, then watch full games after I've played them. I seem to find more problems and solutions that way, rather than watching real time games. Strange but effective for me </BLOCKQUOTE>
I dont watch the game full, iv never really tryed it i usually go by personnel stats and match stats, Cleon do you find it easier or more effective by watching the game full, or by just looking at the stats, im thinking of doing a abit of both what do you think?

retired_janellewood86

Agreed mate, ignore the idiots who say you should play fifa, we dont want fifa we want something like FM06 again but with the improved parts from FM07.
FM07 is way too reliant on tactics, like the dude said it doesnt feel like a game as much, its more unrealistic than FM06.

And no dont say "go back to fm06 if u like it so much" cos i dont, fm06 has its flaws too </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, maybe it might be a bit harsh. But I beleive the point stands. Anyone who is willing to put in a few hours to fiddle with the game or read the advice here can get at least reasonable results. If that's not for you then don't play the game. It's like playing Halo and claiming you're not very good at aiming a gun.

retired_dolly67601

Right, this is winding me up, so I'm very sorry if this appears as a rant.

People say "it's unrealistic because my formation doesn't work, blah, blah blah"

In real life, every manager plays the same basic formations, but their instructions are different.

Just cos you think your formation is good doesn't mean that you should win every match.

Iain Dowie probably kept thinking his formation was good, but that didn't stop Charlton from losing loads of games.

Every manager thinks that their tactics are spot on, but in truth, a lot aren't, which is why you have good teams, bad teams, bad teams who overperform, and good teams who underperform.

And yes, you also get tactics what work one season, then don't another season. Like, for example, Everton, they'll play well one season, then struggle the season after that. So the manager will alter the tactics again to try and make them play better the season after.

So to say it's unrealistic is a complete load of tosh. Just cos you think your tactic is great doesn't mean it actually is

retired_elpata

Wow that is long, how come so long if you don't mind me asking? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Ha ha, don't mind at all.

I watch a lot of games in Full match mode.

Actually I was whizzing through the games a bit (OK relatively!) quicker before the patch was released, but since it came out I'm probably watching every second game on full match mode.

Not helping me much at the moment though! Just can't seem to get a grip on things again. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah I understand.

I tend to watch highlights only, then watch full games after I've played them. I seem to find more problems and solutions that way, rather than watching real time games. Strange but effective for me </BLOCKQUOTE>
I dont watch the game full, iv never really tryed it i usually go by personnel stats and match stats, Cleon do you find it easier or more effective by watching the game full, or by just looking at the stats, im thinking of doing a abit of both what do you think? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Your clutching at straws if you don't watch a few games every now and then imo. Highlights give off the wrong impressions at times, and youi only see chances not mistakes half of time.

retired_o1bubbles

Were not expecting to win every week, were simply dissapointed that the ammount of importance that went into tactics over everything else.
Sure managers might tell players different instructions every week but that it no way determines results as it does on FM07, team morale/Player skills would play a far greater part to success than player instructions.

As i said, i dont care what managers tell players, at the end of the day a player gets paid 50k+ a week because he knows what he is doing, not because some manager has told him to run down a wing and cross the ball, or shoot from range.

GreenRage

Then why is the manager always sacked when things go wrong?
And how come bringing in a new manager can turn the teams season around?

retired_dolly67601

The thing is, player morale comes from performances & results.

Performances & results come from tactics

retired_pennyyoung

while the tactical side may be flawed, the english FA with their massive resources couldn't develop a better simulation than si has (in my humble opinion); the fact of the matter is that you're ultimately playing a game, which, while you may not be able to control certain occurrences, you can still do things to swing the balance in your favour (eg, cheat: use fm genie scout, fmm, other people's tactics/training etc, or use mind games etc).

irl, managers themselves cannot control several variables, but yet they plow through season after season.

all i'm saying is that, if you cannot enjoy the game after shelling out the cash, either find a way to enjoy it, or lighten up

retired_rebebeccag

You've no idea how wrong you are.

Tactic are a huge, and ever-increasing part of modern football.

Nowadays fitness work is done in the pre-season, everything after that is really just conditioning.

For example, players are spending more and more time in lecture theatres watching compilations of their and their opponents performances. Chelsea employ 3 people just to put together DVDs of the opposition ahead of games. Each players DVD is tailored to the role he is expected to perform. This doesn't include the coaching staff who work on the DVDs for the players to look back at their own performances to see where they were tactically poor. This goes on up and down the country.

Therefore the importance of tactics in the game
reflects accurately the level of importance to real life. I'm struggling to find time for it all, but people are right to say to go and play something else if this isn't your idea of fun. Cause it's supposed to be fun.

retired_monica90

Also, there are many other aspects of this game that now play a more profound effect than ever before- sometimes your tactics can be spot on, but if your players are inadequately prepared, you can still lose.