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Cheers lads. I have previously had lots of trouble creating a solid tactic. I learnt a lot from nonleague, cleon, rashidi and the lads and managed to make on the was rock solid defensively, and not too good offensively. This tactic (433) did it's work for me for almost 3 seasons. Towards the end of season 3 it stopped working more or less. Lots of goals conceded. Still plenty of chances created (and I mean headers from 3 yards and such) yet they were about 95% off target. Season 4 starts and it all blows up in my face. 11 losses and 6 draws in the first 20 matches earns me a sacking. Not only were they leaking like hell, I was lucky to get 2 shots off. TOTAL! couldnt get another job with my rep, so I started a new one.
I am manager of Anderlecht now, and nothing of the stuff I learnt from the geniuses works. I leak like crazy and a good match gets me two shots at their goal, total. And this is with the definitive top team in this country. I need to get something working before the UCL matches, or I might just as well sack myself.
Hence this invitation, if Cleon permits this thread, to help me make a tactic from scratch.
I don't of course expect to just sit back, but to interact and maybe even say something intli..intele...smart.
Preferences, should anyone want to join in this Crusade against Evil (the AI) are 2 or 3 strikers and "pretty" football. Other than that I'm not too fussy. I would of course like to be solid at the back, but I'll gladly trade that for the experience of sometime actually scoring more than 3 goals in a match, which has been a rarity the seasons I have played fm07 till now.
Oh, and I'm pre-patch still. Dont trust'em just yet.
I'd like to add one thing for Cleon: I know I am supposed to add my settings and such, but I really don't have any yet, it's not my intention to make another "gimme a tactic to download" thread.
Another thing I am noticing is that I seem to get too big a gap between each segment of my team (defence, midfield, strikers), but I can't seem to find a remedy for this.
the reason you get a gap is becaause your D-line is too deep most likely. Push it up more to link up with midfield.
With your work in progress do you intend to make variations of the same tactic for away, defending against 4-2-4, defending lead, need a goal quick ete etc or just the one base tactic?
err....yeah....or...no? I have no idea what the variatiions would play out like tbh.
About the D-line I have been trying to push it up as well, but the biggest gap is between my midfield and strikers. They just get isolated up there, and when I try to remedy that, I let in even more goals.
And this horribly stupid thing, when I get a free kick on their half my players won't stop passing the ball 3 yards to another player, and hardly ever going for the cross into the box or the direct shot. Even when it's only 18 yards out. When I mean best header, I mean the one in the box, my set piece taker obviously regards whomever closest to be that person.
(I think this is a neat spin on the tactic request front, and will actually generate some good discussion.)
Well, you need to make a wish list to start with, and then we can sit down with a pen and paper and draw up a blueprint. So, to start with we need to know a few basic goals:
1) Do you want a solid tactic or an expansive one. i.e., do you want to win 1-0 or 8-7?
2) Do you want to play intricate play in the centre of the park or crosses from out wide.
3) Do you want to sit back and explode on the counter attack or play possession football
4) Would you like a "defending team" and an "attacking team", i.e. do you want 5 forward players concentrating on chances and 5 defending players guarding the goal or something more subtle and flowing
5) (although you mention you want 3 up front) What sort of formation are you after. 3-4-3, 4-3-3, a hybrid of these?
6) What sort of team are we going to be crafting this for? Someone with skills or someone with no talent? This will definitely affect things.
There are a variety of ways these basic elements can be implimented, but until we know what you want and what your team is capable of, we'll have to sit back.
Right, so I'm trying to do a offensively powerfull 442 diamond now, set up position wise like in the code if that comes out as it should.
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After my recent 1-4 defeat at home I got a news item I've never seen before where the fans accused me of negative tactics and looking like the away team. I don't want any of that so trying to create offensive power now.
CBs are last notch of defensive mentality(5?)
4th notch cf, 10 passing, 5 cd. Rarely on everything, and tight marking, yes.
FBs are first notch normal mentality (6?), last notch cf (5?), 10 passing and 8 cd. Rarely on everything except crossing which is often. From and Aim = mixed. Tight marking, yes.
DM I'm not sure how I should set up. A rabid, tackling dog makes me feel safer, but a Makelele wouldnt be amiss either. Midfielders are the hardest to set up imo, as they need to connect both offensively and defensively.
Originally posted by Millie: (I think this is a neat spin on the tactic request front, and will actually generate some good discussion.)
Well, you need to make a wish list to start with, and then we can sit down with a pen and paper and draw up a blueprint. So, to start with we need to know a few basic goals:
1) Do you want a solid tactic or an expansive one. i.e., do you want to win 1-0 or 8-7?
If I had to choose I'd say 8-7, but really neither. both of them would have me to nervous in the even matches.
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2) Do you want to play intricate play in the centre of the park or crosses from out wide.
I do like the crosses, but I can never seem to get a tactic like that work. Then one I had that worked featured the FBs as the only crossers, everyone else tried through balls.
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3) Do you want to sit back and explode on the counter attack or play possession football
I like passing along the ground, but fast. Does that tell you anything, cause me I'm not sure. That is probably a more ca-style I guess.
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4) Would you like a "defending team" and an "attacking team", i.e. do you want 5 forward players concentrating on chances and 5 defending players guarding the goal or something more subtle and flowing
Definately flowing fame. Like I say, "pretty" football.
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5) (although you mention you want 3 up front) What sort of formation are you after. 3-4-3, 4-3-3, a hybrid of these?
I was thinking 433, but tbh I dont care really as long as those three at the back can keep the odd clean sheet.
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6) What sort of team are we going to be crafting this for? Someone with skills or someone with no talent? This will definitely affect things.
This is for Anderlecht, so I would definately say there is some skill involved. Especially compared to my competition in the league.
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There are a variety of ways these basic elements can be implimented, but until we know what you want and what your team is capable of, we'll have to sit back.
A squad list would be handy. :thup:
Due to loads of long term injuries my current match squad is:
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Serkan | Meme TchiteAhmed HassanMbark Boussoufa | jonathan LegearLucas BigliaJelle van Damme | Oliver Deschacht | Roland Juasz | Anthony Vanden borreDavy SchollenDunno if this means much to you, mate. </pre>
Originally posted by Dayle Wood:
centrebacks try through balls - mixed. change that for when you are away playing direct high tempo game.
You mean cb ttb away?
one q about the direct high tempo game away - with individual settings on every player, does the team setttings for passing and such make a difference or do I need to change the passing for every player (and if so, how much)?
Project: Make a tactic from scratch 
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