retired_elpata

I've never spoken to Millie outside these forums, but what he says makes sense. He has a few valid points. He admits its his formation and settings at times for why things down work. But hes took a step back and seen the bigger picture, a lot of it is down to faults at his end rather than the game. But most people are not big enough to admit that.

ffs I couldn't score for **** when I was testing the game and for the first 6 weeks struggled really badly. But I took a step back and re assed things and now I can't stop winning no matter what team I am. Thats not me being big headed either, but its true I always do better than the club expcet me too.

I spoke to someone last week off here funnily enough and he couldnt win a game no matter what tactic he used. After a little chat I found out, no matter what tactic he used he used the same settings. So I told him its probably his settings what are flawed and he should try something different instead of using the same settings that have failed him since day 1. I got an email today saying he won the league with Charlton 1st season :cool:

I bet a lot more users use the same settings in a new formation even if they failed them before. Try something different, don't do the same. If you watch a full match (after youi played it not during) and write down the mistakes, the bad and good points you see in the tactic. And do this over the course of 3 or 4 games im sure anyone can turn their fortunes around and have some consistency for once.

retired_vmacalik

The trouble is that if you play an attacking tactic and create huge numbers of chances, it dosent matter if they are good clear cut chances or not the ai will restrict your goals to a reasonable amount.
This means that your strikers can go from goal machines to unable to put the ball into an empty net from 5 yards in about 10 minutes game time because they are not converting their chances(I hate the speed strikers lose confidence in this version)

I would try tweaking your tactic to create less chances (increase time wasting and decrease the mentality of your strikers particularly). If you can create fewer chances then the ai dosent have to artificially reduce your shot to goal ratio and your strikers confidence improves so they can actually finish the chances they do get

dotseurat

customer services is your strong point

retired_rebebeccag

Nail on the head Cleon.

You do read people moaning that they've used 3-5-2, 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-5-1, etc, etc and haven't had success, as if the simple formation was the entirity of the game.

It's not. The complexity comes from the inter-relationships between the instructions, and from how they fit with your basic formation.

And of course that's not even considering the impact of the players!

retired_hienataberdeen

Thanks Millie. I'll give that a try

dotseurat

well how do i have less shot? i have no one set on long shots 2 wingers set for forward runs the rest of the team set on mixed or rarely

retired_shygurljulie2004

quote:
Benfica4Alex:
i agree with you i find it stupid that you have quality players sometimes 1 or 2 or maybe 3 top strikers playin at the same time depending on the formation you playing but then again you cnt score take man utd as an example Rooney and saha it will take them 10-20 shots between them for them to get any bloody goals its a joke and should b sorted out so this game can be a bit more realistic!


20 shots? That's profligate. Why are they shooting that much? Seriously, it's actually a bad thing if the team are getting more than 20 shots in a game. By that point you should be 4 or 5 goals in the lead and not have to bomb forward so much. That certainly needs looking into. Those shots must be of very poor quality.

LOL dont make me laugh mate are you trying to tell me that its a bad things having 10-20 shots on goal? how the hell u expecting to score? maybe ur happy wining games by the odd goal or so but it dosent mean others are!

retired_mully

customer services is your strong point </BLOCKQUOTE>

Lmao thats a great comeback from Pele, sorry i know it's off topic but lmao.

Right Cleon i think you may have saved me by saying this, maybe i am just repeating my instructions, i think like another post i saw, i am going to use the game manual as abit of a guide as too what i need to suit my second season Manchester City game, you may have give me some hope for now! One question for a few of you all to answer your own opinions?

Do you actually think aslong as you have enough strengthening in each of the positions it actually matters what formation layout itself you use aslong as the instructions suit your team?

retired_andy haliman

Inspiring:
I had the same problem than everyone else.
I play well, have the ball possession, shot a lot and...i don't lose but i don't win!
My ratio Goal for and Goal against look similar and 90% of my games are decided by 1 goal difference (if score is not 0-0 )
I tried boosting my team confidence and play a friendly against the sh%^ttiest team I could find : after 64minutes, home result was still 0-0 even if I easily dominated (final score 2-0).
Then I read your post(s) and changed few settings:
1 notch less for offense
2 more time wasting
1 less for speed
and....next game i play away against a top5 team in the standing....i lead 2-0 after 10 minutes!
Did not change anything else but my team instructions.
Same behavior with press (no comment)
Same starting 11,
Same individual settings//

What seems to make a difference is also SURPRISING the opponent by using a slightly different tactic...
If you stick to the same tactic over and over it seems to become ineffective (which makes sense...IRL teams are scouted and their tactic analyzed in depth to counter it)

anyways, it seems to work for me, should do it for you too

retired_janellewood86

Yes, I am if you're not scoring. It's clear that of those 20 shots on goal none of them were good enough to go in. So you need to make clearer cut chances.

As I've said before, changing your setting to, amongst other things, a slower tempo, shorter passing, perhaps a little more creativity should produce clearer chances.

My argument is that there is absolutely no point in having 20 shots when its clear your strikers/midfielders obviously can't convert those sorts of chances. So make different kinds of chances. It's like the guy that claimed Rooney missed 5 one-on-ones. Don't make Rooney try one-on-ones!

With 20 shots at goal you should win comfortably - 4 or 5 nil. If you're not, then that's the fault of the way you've set your team up.

I'm more than willing to look at a .pkm (saved match file) or three where you claim your strikers are behaving "unrealisitcally" if you want, and if you're right I will eat the biggest slice of humble pie your wildest dreams can conjure up. However, if you look back at those games you will see a pattern emerging. Certain types of shot always missed by certain types of people.

At the end of the day, I stand by my original statement. 20 shots is profligate. Work on creating fewer, but better chances.