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Old 02-05-2008, 01:25 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #1
 
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why is it that players seem to do so much better than other despite massive discrepancies in their stats, for instance, gilles sunu has absolutley shoddy attributes, bought him as an impact player off the bench for millwall in league one (19 pace and also high composure and finishing, little else). But alas he managed to dominate my scoring in league one and later in the championship. When i got to the premier league i doubted his abilities as a goal scorer and employed zeefuik and arturo lupoli as my strikers. while lupoli scored consistently zeefuik (25mill) flopped, so i decided to give sunu a go and viola he top scored in the premier league as well, even getting into the france squad and scoring a hat trick on debut (and never being picked again) has anyone else had similar scenarios? appreciated also if someone can test gilles sunu in the premier league...came from arsenal from memory... thanks
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:33 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #2
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Similar thing happened for me with Leeds..

Marius Niculae has really good stats in most attributes but was massively out-performed by Kostadinov who had like 3 or 4 attributes over 14.

Strange...
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:46 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #3
 
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He's in Arsenal U21s.
I loaned him as Metz, as Arsenal is a parent club, and he absolutely dominates in the French 2nd league...
I know it's not exactly Premiership, but thought I'd throw it in there anyway...
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:47 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #4
 
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i wondered if it was just that zeefuik didn't fit into my squad, so i tried other players, omar andrade and falcao but the same thing happened.

i also figured that it might be because they need some time to acclimatise to the new team, but i gave them a season each and it didnt help...
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:48 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #5
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Well the 2 most important things for a striker are finishing & composure imo. Add to that pace & acceleration and the striker will tend to do well in the game. Ofcourse other attributes are very important as well. Thats why he does well. Same is the case with Rhys Murphy again at Arsenal. Hes got a lowish PA but develops in the right areas and becomes a pretty good striker.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:49 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #6
 
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nice dud. yeah, must excell in lower leagues...but who would have thought premier league as well. and another question, although his stats are dud, wouldnt france pick him again if he scored a hat trick in a 20 minute debut...
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It's all about having the stats in the right places and you league difficulty. High pace, finshing and composure? That's a pretty deadly combo, especially in League 1 and the CCC.

I must admit however, this has made me think before. I was (am to a degree still am) certain that stats didn't matter that much, I always found people with good PA nearly always outperformed anyone with low PA and good stats. I never had enough evidence to back you theory but I know I'm not the only person to have thought this.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:15 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #8
 
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interesting...

maybe there's some hidden 'team chemistry' attribute that a player has with a certain team that overrides their visible attributes?

possibly a crap theory, dont shoot me down haha.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:26 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #9
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About Zeefuik..

I have him in my Excelsior team which is currently dominating Holland. He has good attributes and a high value but it getting outplayed and out scored by both my other striker - Mazzola and Klusener. I don't get it.


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Old 02-05-2008, 04:24 PM   gilles sunu - excellent player, shoddy attributes. Post #10
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its basically just because pace is the most important attribute in the game. And no other attribute even comes close

so if you have a striker with top pace and acc and decent finishing he'll be amazing in any league, at any level. not very realistic but thats the way it is in the game
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