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Old 12-16-2006, 01:04 AM   My Tactical Theory 'The Grid' - SI Secret!? Post #81
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Boxing is my passion, I come from a big boxing family, football comes a close 2nd Big Grin
then i would not play football wit u with grid or not but it is kinda cool that boxer who like footy is a phenomenon in FM.

nwm i still ain`t playin footy with u dude, naah not even with prot on
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Old 12-16-2006, 12:20 PM   My Tactical Theory 'The Grid' - SI Secret!? Post #82
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Originally posted by datemyplate.com:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:
Because hes basing it on the notches on the slider I think. Which is totally ilogical thinking
...If there are 20 sliders, why is it 'totally illogical' ?...
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Like I said before, a goalkeeper on 20 mentality plays in a totally different realm to a striker on 1.

If this grid theory is your passion and you want to get it to work, I'm all for it. But 20 doesn't work for me. It's either too many or too few.

The thing should work more simply and be 6x5 like the tactical positions. This would provide your basis for everything. Then each of these blocks should probably divide into 10x10. This would allow you to instantly see such things as closing down, passing etc.

Let's take an example:

D. Fender (CB)
Closing down: 5
Mentality: 6
Creative freedom: 5
Passing: 15
Def. Line: 14
Tempo: 15


Right. Now, when in his usual home (middle three squares, second row) chances are he will close down any man that comes within a 5 square radius of either himself or his position. We don't really know as yet.

If he finds himself on the first row (sweeper) he may be even more inclined to close down. Then again, he may act exactly as he did before. We don't know.

If he finds himself further up, he may close down less, making sure he gets back to his position before making a tackle.

For passing, perhaps he passes to anyone within, I don't know, 30 squares. He's more inclined to go for the 30 than the 10, however, because he's set to direct passing. His creative freedom would dictate how rigid this radius is (or so goes the theory).

Nice. Neat. Could work.

However, we're now back into square peg, round hole territory. I've yet to see even a hypothesis as to how you work tempo, creative freedom and other factors into this grid. What does tempo do to the grid exactly? And what about the opposition's tactics?

Similarly, where is the defender's position on the actual pitch? Where the defensive line are supposed to hold? Exactly a certain yardage away from the defensive goal line? Where? Why? How does this fit into your grid of 20? Clearly there are far more variables than that.

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If there are 20 sliders, why is it 'totally illogical' ?

Noel, I like your attitude - it is a debate I was looking for so thanks for that point...
Yes, debate is good. But 20 rows, and so few columns? Doesn't make sense to me. Like I say, a striker and a goalkeeper on 20 passing, 20 mentality, 20 closing down etc. are in completely different areas of the field, so 20 is not enough. Or, if you want to simplify the system, there are only 6 rows of positions, 20 is too many.

In short, 20 just doesn't work. I really think you need to re-evaluate this "totally logical" premise: because it isn't logical.
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Old 12-16-2006, 02:52 PM   My Tactical Theory 'The Grid' - SI Secret!? Post #83
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To be quite honest guys, my theory isn't doing much for me at the moment as I am not getting results.

I definitely believe the grid theory works in terms of closing down (may be that only)

for the life of me, I can't work out how the mentality sliders work though...

Im struggling!!

(at least I admit it!)
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Old 12-16-2006, 02:55 PM   My Tactical Theory 'The Grid' - SI Secret!? Post #84
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Read the unofficial tactic bible thread, which can be found at top of the forum. The read the disucssion threads about mentality, and also
http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...7/m/4832064382 this and things should be a lot clearer.
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