jraldous

1-1 in the home leg against Palmeiras (of course) and then 1-1 in the away leg... it was going to penalties...

And we lost 6-7.. on the 9th round of kicks!

I'm just not meant to beat them!

jraldous

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gar3th:
The Brazilian league structure really makes me dizzy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's simple Gar3th

You play in two major league competitions each season.

A regional competition in the first half against other teams in your state. (Imagine it as a Lancashire League with Liverpool, Everton, Man Utd etc... a London league, a Yorkshire league... a Tyne-Wear-Boro league etc...)

Then in the second half there is a national competition which is completely unrelated to the state leagues. It is like the Brazilian version of the Football League with 3 divisions. Division 1 and 2 are quite large and you only play opponents once. Division 3 is based on group play and a playoff system for promotions.

Division 1 and 2 both have playoffs at the end of the season. In real life this should be the top 8 teams, but in CM 01/02 its only 4 for some reason (bug??). It is the winner of these playoffs who is the Division 1 or 2 champion!

It's 4 up 4 down between D1/2.

There is a national cup competition played in the first half of the year (Brazilian Cup) with home and away legs for the whole comp. The final is played mid-year between the two league sections.

There is another cup competition for State League Winners called the Champions Cup which is also played during the gap between the two league sections.

The two cup winners, and top 2 teams in the ND1 (and some other random team it seems) qualify for the Copa Libertadores which is the South American version of the ECL. (Format is the same one which the ECL is going to have from next season). Copa Libertadores is held midweek during the state league period.

The 6 biggest clubs in Brazil as judged by some random factor (I think its fixed in CM ) play in the Copa Mercosur which is a made for TV league for the biggest clubs in South America. This is held mid-week during the National league period.

I think that covers it... SI left out a lot of the less important competitions. You can easily play 70 games in a season once you make the top division and possibly 100!

jraldous

The season starts normally in early February and finishes late December or even early January sometimes! There is not a lot of time off for teams with a full schedule

Educated Hick

How the heck do your players stay healthy?

PMLF

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Educated Hick:
How the heck do your players stay healthy? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Brazilian training routines and the Brazilian physios are very good (in real life).

PMLF

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jraldous:
1-1 in the home leg against Palmeiras (of course) and then 1-1 in the away leg... it was going to penalties...

And we lost 6-7.. on the 9th round of kicks!

I'm just not meant to beat them! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Too bad you lost to Palmeiras again. Why they always beat you?

I hope you will play the Libertadores Cup again next season.

jraldous

Its a real problem with my save. Palmeiras are in a nice pattern of selling one player to a European club for 15m pounds and buying the best available replacement in Brazil for 5m pounds (a massive transfer fee between Brazilian clubs). They are cashed up and regularly snap up any player of quality. Easily the best team in the world in my save.

Juanseba

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jraldous:
Its a real problem with my save. Palmeiras are in a nice pattern of selling one player to a European club for 15m pounds and buying the best available replacement in Brazil for 5m pounds (a massive transfer fee between Brazilian clubs). They are cashed up and regularly snap up any player of quality. Easily the best team in the world in my save.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And you don't have the finances to compete with them...?

Plus, as I think this is my first post in your thread (I've read the whole thing though), just like to congratulate you and to KUTGW!

Especially as my first game on CM4 plans to heavily involve Brazil and your save has inspired me further!

PMLF

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Juanseba:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jraldous:
Its a real problem with my save. Palmeiras are in a nice pattern of selling one player to a European club for 15m pounds and buying the best available replacement in Brazil for 5m pounds (a massive transfer fee between Brazilian clubs). They are cashed up and regularly snap up any player of quality. Easily the best team in the world in my save.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Especially as my first game on CM4 plans to heavily involve Brazil and your save has inspired me further! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am looking forward to read it. The Brazilian season in 2003 is different than in 2003, as usual.

jraldous

It's not good news from Minas Gerais.

We didn't make it out of the Champions Cup group stage after losses to Palmeiras() and Figuierense and a win over Botafogo.

I then accepted a ridiculously inflated offer for my goalkeeper, knowing I had 1 class veteran backup, and one good youngster as well.

Then it all went wrong. 3 games left in the season and we are languishing in 13th place. Half-a-dozen players have lost confidence in me. I've tried new tactics etc with little effect. Players are now not recovering as well between matches (are they not committed anymore?).

I signed a classy player from Palmeiras where he was frustrated in the reserves, only to find he is cup-tied in the league

It has the feel of what happened to me at Hampton and Richmond, when the squad could go no further and all turned on me!

I think I'll need a miracle to keep my job. Despite a superb reputation in Brazil (#3) and Good in the world (#20) and the board still being delighted I can see the sack coming if the squad continue to lose confidence in me.