Fitness.com
Advertisement

Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager

Football Manager

Discuss Football Manager 2008 for PC, MAC and PSP versions of FM 2008. Click here to view our FM resources.


» Site Navigation
 > Shop
» Current Poll
Best 5 club teams in history of Football:
Liverpool 1977-1978 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Real Madrid 1956-1960 - 0%
0 Votes
Juventus 1985 - 0%
0 Votes
Milan 1989-1990 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1971-1973 - 0%
0 Votes
Santos 1962-1963 - 0%
0 Votes
Torinho 1940's - 100.00%
1 Vote
Ajax 1995 - 0%
0 Votes
Flamengo 1981 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Benfica 1961-1962 - 100.00%
1 Vote
Total Votes: 1
You may not vote on this poll.
» Stats
Members: 103,468
Threads: 85,004
Posts: 1,031,271
Top Poster: Karky (9,545)
Welcome to our newest member, TheJayDoe
» Fitness Shop
If you register for free, you will be able to post threads, vote on polls and lots more. If you have problems with the registration or logging in, please contact the administrator.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-09-2007, 07:11 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #81
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_kooky is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by black 'n amber tiger:
The point I am making is for some reason software developers in general ( and i don't just mean SI) think it is acceptable to release a game before it has been tested fully and is 100% complete. We the general public are then not only treated as unpaid game testers but actually paying for the privaledge. Perhaps we are to at fault because
a) we accept it and do nothing or worse still moan about it but carry on buying their games.
b) Are unwilling to pay the price in the shops or on the net that would allow game delevopers to pay people to to test the product out for us.

What is the answer? Because at the moment it seems to me we are slating people who no doubt are doing their best week in week out to make great games, but haven't the resources avialable to make sure things are perfect

"Perfection comes at a price"
There is a big difference to being able to see whether a texture is in the right place or whether your rts men are moving to the right place in the screen that it is to test every possible combination of things that might happen in FM. Obviously, as far as could be seen at the time, the game was ready to go out, and if you think about it i bet as much game time elapsed (by people playing at home) in the first week of sale as happened in the entire time si was working on the game - you must be talking tens of thousands of hours, which makes it unsurprising that new things pop up.
retired_kooky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 07:22 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #82
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
Philco is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I've not exactly been pleased with the shape the game was released, however I must say that the SI team has mostly responded to our criticism. And it's because they are willing to listen to us and correct their mistakes (granted it takes a few tries, but atleast they do it, unlike some other game manufacturers)

I saw their improvements in the 07 patches as hard evidence for their dedication to solve the problems. And that is mainly because I bought the game (that and 07 had awesome playability + they promised me new exciting features(I wouldn't exactly call them exiting as few work atm) and I will most likely buy the 09 game too if SI sorts this out with a patch.

Personaly I'd rather they delay the patch until they are 100% satisifed and all bugs have been removed and all features tested, instead of releasing a half-assed patch that does nothing much other than fix a few problems and cause a lot of new ones (which the beta patches has done, although they did improve some parts of gameplay)

Keep working SI and ignore all us ranters that has nothing better to do than to whine. Frustration is best vented on the internet (without harming anybody that is)
Philco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 07:24 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #83
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
Philco is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

errr correction

I've not exactly been pleased with the shape the game was released, however I must say that the SI team has mostly responded to our criticism. And it's because they are willing to listen to us and correct their mistakes (granted it takes a few tries, but atleast they do it, unlike some other game manufacturers) they keep getting customers and the games quality improves (might take a few tweaks but you know what I mean)
Philco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 07:37 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #84
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_kooky is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by black 'n amber tiger:
Get what your saying but surely some one should have noticed the obvious things that where wrong such as always raining in finland etc etc
well, it's obvious to you cos you noticed it, if you see what i mean - I'll bet there is something else which no-one has yet noticed, at some point someone will discover it and say "how did they miss that" even though the thousands of hours of gameplay that had passed to that point hadn't made it visible.

btw isn't it always raining in Finland?
retired_kooky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 09:38 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #85
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_nivea is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by black 'n amber tiger:
Get what your saying but surely some one should have noticed the obvious things that where wrong such as always raining in finland etc etc
Finland is in the game ?!?!

Seriously, there are some obvious things that should have been spotted, but the weather patterns in Finland wouldnt really jump out to most people..
retired_nivea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 09:42 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #86
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_jhr2211 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to retired_jhr2211
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by black 'n amber tiger:
RB,
Actually there is a law that covers it...
its called the trade description act and states that any product sold has to be fit for the purpose intend!!
Correct

Quote:
and as SI are releasing a patch then it is clear it is NOT fit for purpose
Wrong.

You might want to read up on law a bit
retired_jhr2211 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 10:13 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_Personlinks is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

I'm just astounded at those who defend the SI staff here. They are professionals. When the manager at your favorite club benches all the star players, starts his 8 year old son in goal, and plays a 0-0-10 formation, you'd criticize the hell out of him and call for his head. What's any different here? They did a **** poor job of testing the game and hardly made any dramatic improvements. It's almost like they spent 8 months editing FM 07 just to give it bugs, then slapped 08 on it and released it.

Unfortunately, SI is just another video game company now, putting no effort or innovation into their new games because they know they don't have to. They take no pride in their work and they might as well merge with EA so they can produce garbage year after year together.

And these are the same companies that complain about piracy? I have no sympathy.
retired_Personlinks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2007, 11:02 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #88
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_boilergirl is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by black 'n amber tiger:
"Perfection comes at a price"
£30.00 is an extortionate price for a product that is miles away from satisfaction, and light years away from what it claims.

Quote:
Originally posted by Canabary:
Keep working SI and ignore all us ranters
In the words of Sir Alan Sugar, "if a customer uses their own time, too switch on a computer, enter a website and vent their frustration at a product/service you know there's something wrong"
retired_boilergirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2007, 01:10 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #89
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_redheadjr is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

isn't the point of a demo to try and search out and eliminate any problems ? Perhaps it should in future be released a full month before the game so Si have enough time to consider any problems or bugs that have been found and get rid of them for the actual game. There's no need to constantly release new patches. If the game release date is pushed back say be a month, I'm sure everyone will be fine with that so long as all the bugs have been removed.
retired_redheadjr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2007, 01:19 PM   can si make a promise for 09 Post #90
Newb
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 0
Rep Power: 0
retired_ttelfordj is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Agree with Count Blake 100%.
retired_ttelfordj is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Sports Forum > Community > Football Manager

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar threads to can si make a promise for 09
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I promise this is not a complaint
I promise this is not a complaint: OK, so I have owned FM 08 for a good 2/3 months....
mike82 Football Manager 5 01-12-2008 12:07 AM
Unfulfilled Promise
Unfulfilled Promise: It has come to my concern and makes me wonder if...
reddevil0728 Football Manager 1 11-13-2007 04:45 PM
just a quick question promise
just a quick question promise: i am using the champs league skin if i download...
Tom Devereux Skinning Hideout 4 08-04-2007 12:03 AM
quick question i promise
quick question i promise: how do i make images .png files? cheers ...
Ashley_Tofte Skinning Hideout 1 07-30-2007 08:29 PM
I'm keeping my promise :)
I'm keeping my promise :): I promised to help you to get 100 members. I...
General Photoshop Board 9 06-29-2003 05:31 AM

More threads of blythgeordie
Thread Date Forum Replies Last Post
End of season player assessment?
End of season player assessment?: Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to...
01-25-2008 Football Manager 8 01-25-2008 08:21 PM
There's only one outcome here
There's only one outcome here: What do they maen by this? Whenever i get this...
12-03-2007 Football Manager 3 12-03-2007 10:48 PM
Will 09 be any better?
Will 09 be any better?: I think most people are having issues with 08, it...
11-29-2007 Football Manager 14 11-30-2007 12:05 AM
si miss golden opportunity
si miss golden opportunity: Cant help feeling si have missed a great...
11-14-2007 Football Manager 25 11-14-2007 02:08 PM
board request-make the team aware
board request-make the team aware: under the manager confidence if you have a heavy...
11-14-2007 Football Manager 2 11-14-2007 01:03 AM

Other threads in forum Football Manager
Thread Date Thread Starter Replies Last Post
sugar dady?????were he gone
sugar dady?????were he gone: i got 3000 points and still he hasnt appeared...
12-15-2007 bobodo 3 12-15-2007 09:45 PM
Tight Chairman
Tight Chairman: I am managing Tramere i am about to start my...
11-20-2007 Student Boy 5 11-20-2007 06:13 PM
Where is my Money!!!
Where is my Money!!!: Hello I play as a manager in on club for 4...
06-04-2007 Damec 4 06-08-2007 12:00 AM
point gaps
point gaps: when is the earliest that anyone has won the...
02-18-2007 And Alonso follows it innnnnnnnn 1 02-19-2007 02:01 PM
UP TO DATE FM 2007
UP TO DATE FM 2007: How up to date will FM 2007 be on the Xbox 360? ...
11-13-2006 Hibeegunner1987 2 11-14-2006 12:45 AM

» Online Users: 22
0 members and 22 guests
No Members online
Most users ever online was 2,128, 07-21-2008 at 08:27 PM.

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Fitness.com | Weight Loss | Training & Fitness | BodyBuilding | Chinese | Spanish | French | Germany | Italian | Friend Codes |
You are viewing can si make a promise for 09 - Page 9.