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retired_kkdanno · 11-06-2007, 07:09 PM

lets not turn this into another 'england are overrated' thread please. I'm sick of hearing it when they clearly aren't

retired_angeliwuoma · 11-06-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by ScottM:
Do we?
How many active leagues do you run? a handful and mostly the English leagues?

Currently running over 80 leagues from all the European nations in FM07.

I agree that English teams are over-rated with far too many all-England finals in Europe, This also includes Portsmouth who reached the CL final despite finishing 15th in the league that season (previous season was their only finish in top 4).

Only after I got passed 2018 or so did the English teams start to figure less, might be something to do with most of the loaded database now being retired & that regens allow for a more realistic spread of talent across the major leagues.

retired_blondiecellist · 11-06-2007, 07:22 PM

Sheer Class, I can't prove this. I'm also not blaming you for this either. As Si BHA said, the reseachers doesn't set a clubs value etc. And, it's not your fault that every team (and there are some of those) that are richer than Portsmouth in real life, aren't richer on FM.

I would like to see a proof of you having £60m, though.

anon414 · 11-06-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by Nicolai:
Sheer Class, I can't prove this. I'm also not blaming you for this either. As Si BHA said, the reseachers doesn't set a clubs value etc. And, it's not your fault that every team (and there are some of those) that are richer than Portsmouth in real life, aren't richer on FM.

I would like to see a proof of you having £60m, though.

Ok, some of the files I used are at work so it wont be till tomorrow evening as I cannot post on here during the day

retired_blondiecellist · 11-06-2007, 07:23 PM

And, as cheesebiscuit says, Pompey bought a player for £40m on one player after the first season. Sorry, but I can't see Pompey even spending £40m during a transferwindow, no matter how many players we are talking.

anon414 · 11-06-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Nicolai:
And, as cheesebiscuit says, Pompey bought a player for £40m on one player after the first season. Sorry, but I can't see Pompey even spending £40m during a transferwindow, no matter how many players we are talking.

I cannot control what the AI spends on a player but we have significant resource available if our manager wants to spend it

Kyokudo · 11-06-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by ScottM:
I know the Pompey Researcher very well and there is no way that he would exagerate the finances of the club. In fact, we have been very well run since Gaydamak took over.
You'll also remember that the Premier League money significantly increased from the start of the 07 season, Pompey have spent well within thier (meagre) means.

If you want to have a pop at anyone, it'll be the Real Madrid Researcher, but even then the head data guy at SI probably wants balance in the leagues, so evens out some of the starting balances so not to slew the advantage of one club over another for "gameplays" sake.

If you had thought about it a tad more before launching your toys out of the pram, perhaps you would have reached the same conclusion, bank balancesat game start are probably carefully trimmed to enhance the game.

Scott M

See here is the problem. This is praised as the most realistic Football Management Game. It is because there is no competition. Either way, Madrid has more spending money. In case you are not familiar, our own sporting director Pedrag Majitovic said that we have about 175m for transfers this summer. We spent around 90m. I am not trying to down Pompey because I like them IRL but I think something is screwy here.

I don't even want to talk about the creators and editors changing something totally realistic just because they want to make English 14 y.o. happy. Besides it doesn't matter because I could use the editor and change something. I don't care if some one cries cheater because I am changing something into the right data.

Don't get me started on the English Players and League in general.

Kyokudo · 11-06-2007, 10:43 PM

Just for the records I have a minor in business economics.

My_Evo · 11-07-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by stiffler:
Just for the records I have a minor in business economics.

Real-life football economics bear litle relation to what you learnt. A guy at Deloitte & Touche told me that.

retired_o2k5o7 · 11-07-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Nicolai:
Oh, and £60 balance makes them the richest club in the whole game except for Chelsea if I'm not mistaken. And I believe Portsmouth spend about £20m during the summer.

Bank balance is just one part that determines a clubs spending power. Turnover, which is generated by stadium income, sponsor deals, is a good indicator for spending power.

The clubs total assets also play a large role. Owning a stadium or having large assets (high player values) makes it easier to get loans and attract investors (borrowed capital). Large clubs can spend more money without getting into financial trouble.

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