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Old 02-04-2008, 03:32 PM   Delay in tactics being implimented / Retraining for a new position. Post #1
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Two questions.

first off. I like the way the game continues as you go into the tactics sfreen., this is exactly what would happen in real life.

But whilst I understand that you need to wait for a break in play for a sub to be made, surely if all you are doing is telling one player to drop deeper or telling the players to start timewasting, the nyou shouldn't need to wait until that passage of play has passed?

IRL it's a case of the manager/asst manager going up to the edge of the technical area and shouting/gesticulating at the players!

Secondly, does a new position stick with the player?

I have a defender who has been playing brilliantly as a DM for three seasons (av rating of 7.5+). In the first season he was training as a DM and got it aded to his positions on the main screen.

After the summer he was off the retraining for DM and just training with the rest of the defensive midfielders.

And he dropped from an accomplished DM to an 'awkward' one almost overnight.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:56 PM   Delay in tactics being implimented / Retraining for a new position. Post #2
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As I used to explain to the parents of my players, shouting instructions to players is useless, because there are only a few possible outcomes, all of which are bad:

1. The player doesn't hear you, and you tear a strip off him when the game is over.

2. The player hears you yelling and stops to receive the message. Invariably, the other team scores while he is deciphering.

3. The player hears you and understands you, but it's the wrong thing to do. Invariably, the other team scores.

Of course, pro players are better at this sort of thing than youth players, but the principle remains that very little can be absorbed while play is on, and so it is always best to wait until a stoppage.
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:11 PM   Delay in tactics being implimented / Retraining for a new position. Post #3
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new positions don't stick if you take them off the training. but they should. i trained an AMC to AML (piatti iirc), so he was AMLC. i wanted to make him AMLRC, but in re-training him to AMR, he "forgot" how to be a AML. then when i retrained him to AMl (he was AMLRC), he went out on loan and came back AMLC, which was suprising, since he is a natural AMC and wasn't on position training. he is left footed, which may have had an influence.

its not a bug, just re-training positions has always been poorly implimented since cm00-01. players don't forget how to do something they've learnt.

i wonder what arsene wenger has walcott on?
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