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Old 02-04-2008, 08:47 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #1
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Below are some extracts of posts in a thread I posted in the T&TT forum regarding use of sliders...

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Hate to burst everyones bubble, but I am playing FML beta and have it on good authority from one of the testing team that there are actually only 5 notches that work 0, 5, 10, 15, & 20...apparently Mentality 16 or 17 for instance is just the same as 15 and so on....just what I've been told...
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VERY interesting to hear, but could this just be for FM Live or the boxed release? Would be nice to know either way.

I have to say though, I have noticed a distinct difference in how players react to say, creative freedom 0 or creative freedom 2 - going by what your suggesting means that 0 or 2 will be equal in the game engine.
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Just a thought also - is'nt the FM Liver match engine slightly different?
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This apparently is for the current match engine on FM 08...u should get clarification though as it was the excuse they used for changiing the live version from 20 notches to 5 a few days ago...so it was more universal to new users as the other setting were the same anyway...

Obviously this information has given me cause for concern and I would just like to confirm if this in fact true... or not, as the case may be.

I was under the impression that FM Live has a slightly different game engine anyway, though would have thought it's based on the current FM08 engine originally.

If the 0-20 sliders actually only "work" in steps of 0,5,10,20 and not the 0-20 that we're led to believe - then this will effectively render alot of topics in the T&TT forum pointless and obsolete and also make a big difference in how many players understand and play the game.

Thoughts, opinions and specifically some comment from SI would be appreciate, even if it's to confirm or debunk what I've read.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:26 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #2
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If this is true ( and I hope it is not,) it does make a nonsense of all the work that the tactical gurus have put in for years in working on CM/FM tactics.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:28 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #3
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its not true. And if it is true, its not true.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:29 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #4
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Its not true.

All that has happened is that FML beta currently uses 5 slider positions instead of 20. This just limits the settings available within that game. Its of no consequence to FM.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:51 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #5
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well it's not so hard to make a little test...
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:54 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #6
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Thanks for the quick rumour-dismissal, Paul!
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:58 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #7
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Its not true.

All that has happened is that FML beta currently uses 5 slider positions instead of 20. This just limits the settings available within that game. Its of no consequence to FM.
Thanks for the confirmation of that PaulC and very quick off the mark too :thup:

I can now return to my tactical den with my loosely scribbled notes, weird and wonderful diagrams, with complete satisfaction.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:07 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #8
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Got me thinking though now...

Will this change be be something SI is plan to implement for future boxed releases such as FM09 or is it just something implemented for FM Live for more "ease of use"?

I only ask because although I'm personally happy with the sliders as they are, I understand that alot of people struggle with the huge amount of variable they can present and hence the many "this game is really difficult now" type posts.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:33 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #9
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Got me thinking though now...

Will this change be be something SI is plan to implement for future boxed releases such as FM09 or is it just something implemented for FM Live for more "ease of use"?

I only ask because although I'm personally happy with the sliders as they are, I understand that alot of people struggle with the huge amount of variable they can present and hence the many "this game is really difficult now" type posts.
Its an experiment in the FML beta. I dont see it being introduced to FM anytime soon.....
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:38 PM   FM08 - The Tactical Sliders - Is All As It Seems? Post #10
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Thanks again for your reply Paul :thup:
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