retired_dolly67601

Mate, I think you're grasping the basics.

That setting is fine as long as you make sure you have enough players defending & attacking when in / not in possession of the ball.

Like I said originally, it's all about balance. Just because a player is set to normal, it doesn't mean he's not defensive or attacking.

One other way of thinking about it would be to think of it as a total score..... (ignoring team mentality)

You have 11 players on the pitch. Each players' individual mentality can be as high as 20, as low as 1.

So from an individual perspective, if you set everyone to 20, you would have a total of 220 in favour of attack, but 0 in favour of defence.

If you set everyone to 1, you would have a total of 209 in favour of defence and a measly 11 in favour of attack.

A perfect balance for defence would be 110 and attack would be 110. 110 in favour of defence, and 110 in favour of attack (which still equals 220).

However, like I have mentioned, it is no good setting extreme values for players as they will be taken out of either the attack or defence, which you don't want to do.

So what you need to do is achieve those values, but keep it balanced. Not too many sticking to defending and not too many sticking to attacking. What you need is a balance between the two, which is hard to achieve!

It's all about picking a formation and achieveing the right balance.

Thanks guys,

Noel

retired_nicole2401

I think we're looking at it this way because FM 07 has gotten alot harder. It now seems that if you can do what the ai does, you have a decent chance of winning, because the ai is good. Since the ai uses global, global must be the go.

retired_dolly67601

But this means the team need time to move up and down the pitch together, right? Which to me sounds that if you want to play a direct (counter attacking) game, you'll want your forwards on attacking, your defenders on defending and your midfield somewhere in between.
With that style of play, the ball travels up the pitch much faster then your players can, so they must already be up the pitch for it to work. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Benoit,

Like I said, there are a whole other set of instructions to play around with to help you achieve what you want to achieve.

This thread is concentrating on mentalities alone

retired_dolly67601

golden_goal,

You've pretty much got it there :thup:

If you look at Cleon's tactics, his mentality values aren't that much different from those you have posted.

My idea isn't exactly the same as his, but it's not too far off

retired_dolly67601

golden_goal,

i'd maybe have my fullbacks more defensive than you have them to be honest, but you're along the right lines with the rest of it

retired_cherylvano

Personally, I wouldn't have my mentality settings that far apart.
If my DC's were on mentality 6 I would have my strikers on mentality 12 at most. I think keeping mentalities within 6 from defence to attack is the best way.

retired_rjw13838

I am only talking about team mentality.

You make it sound like it is wrong to have your defenders on 5 and your attackers on 15. I just provided a scenario where you would need it.

Whats the point in playing a quick, direct style, if you have noone upfront because everybody is back defending?

retired_dolly67601

I am only talking about team mentality.

You make it sound like it is wrong to have your defenders on 5 and your attackers on 15. I just provided a scenario where you would need it.

Whats the point in playing a quick, direct style, if you have noone upfront because everybody is back defending? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Who said anything about quick, direct football?? Not me.

All I said was that you need to balance out your mentalities across the team.

I didn't once refer to playing a quick, direct style of play.

How you choose to play is up to you.

Evidence from watching full highlights definitely proves you need to balance them out.

Also, why is playing somebody with a mentality of 10 defensive ????

It's not classed as defensive, it's classed as normal

retired_dolly67601

Sorry Benoit2, jus re-read your post.

Apologies.

However, I still maintain the fact that having everyone on normal is not defensive.

Normal is both attacking & defending.

kissofdeath2120

thanks for the feedback noel, i'll have to experiment some more with this.

also, as far as 10 not being "attacking" or "defending", this must tie directly into the way Team Mentatlity is perceived in this version, correct?

For example, with the team set as "normal" across the board individually, but with a team setting of "attacking" they would look to push the ball up more, vice versa, a team seeting of "defensive" would tell the team to play more cautious, possesion football.

Am I understanding this correctly?