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Old 04-25-2003, 10:52 AM   Salary capped to 60% of turnover Post #1
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Okay, it seems that the football league will vote in salary caps, to be implemented in Div 3 next year, and Div1&2 the season after.

This will obviously be implemented in any future EPs/releases of CM4.

People say they are struggling on the current salary caps on CM4 to make any money. I don't have CM4 so can't comment.

Is this going to have any significant effect on the way we play LLM, or are the current salary budgets in the game set below this level anyway?

Will it be implemented in the Conference? If not, will everyone have to sell players on promotion to bring their salaries in line with the cap for division 3?
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:59 AM   Salary capped to 60% of turnover Post #2
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The football league as a body doesn't have any say over the Conference does it?

As far as reality is concerned... it's about time that clubs started running themselves like businesses instead of money pits. With regard to CM4, perhaps this will be incorporated into the wage budget structure.... who knows
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Old 04-25-2003, 12:36 PM   Salary capped to 60% of turnover Post #3
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DaveRH:
The football league as a body doesn't have any say over the Conference does it?

As far as reality is concerned... it's about time that clubs started running themselves like businesses instead of money pits. With regard to CM4, perhaps this will be incorporated into the wage budget structure.... who knows <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, you'd think with the general majority of Chairmen coming from some form of a business background, they'd be slightly more savvy when it came to balancing the books wouldn't you?

Anyway, it's about time there were regulations applied to clubs to prevent the kind of fiasco we've seen over the last 12 months. If they can't look after themselves, someone should do it for them. ITV digital was a big factor in the problems, but it certainly wasn't the sole reason.

As for the game, i'm sure it'll be adjusted so the bugs make the mistakes at the 60% mark instead.

I'm joking okay??
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Old 04-25-2003, 01:18 PM   Salary capped to 60% of turnover Post #4
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The figure was for all staff not just playing staff, right? So car-park attendants, stewards, secretaries, cleaners, cooks, groundsmen etc. all have to be figured in as well.
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Old 04-25-2003, 01:40 PM   Salary capped to 60% of turnover Post #5
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The way I see it SI have some major recoding work on their hands otherwise...


You battle valiantly to get the mighty Leigh RMI promoted to the football league. Upon promotion, you must restrict wages to 60% of (I assume) last years turnover (unless someone has a magic, accurate turnover forecaster).
You are forced to sell/fire staff in an attempt to survive as a Football League club restricted by a Conference budget. Failure to comply with the 60% rule will bring sanctions from the league.

Despite everything, "other" expenses force your club into administration. The league deducts points, or possibly relegates you for this misdemeanour (BTW SI will need to code for some pretty rapid Conference expansion with the number of clubs in administration in CM4, after a few years there will only be a handful of clubs left in the league)

The friendly administrators come in and exchange all of your players for some on higher salaries. You blow the 60% rule and the league punish you again.

You finish the season on -10 points, in 4th place, win the playoffs but relegated anyway.

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And six teams will be in the play-offs for 3rd division as of next season.
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Old 04-25-2003, 02:07 PM   Salary capped to 60% of turnover Post #7
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I think a lot of the problems stem from the administrators themselves. Those in charge of Leicester this season let them get away scotfree, whereas the example of Ipswich shows their proper roles where reasonable offers see players sold. Could tighter regulation produce a fairer result? I can't believe anyone wants any clubs to go out of business, and relegation should be decided on quality and not financial standards. I find the consideration of that as a solution farcical.

BTW, me being a Wednesdayite, I can see us being in this situation not far down the road
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I am kind of disturbed with the ever-growing number of playoff spots and easier ways to sneak into promotion. It's getting more and more like North American sports in those terms. It means more money for the clubs, and higher ticket prices for the increased playoff games.

I think the easier path out of the Conference will end up promoting teams that aren't really ready for it. Forcing a team to be the outright winner of the Conference meant things were usually running very nicely for entrance into the league.

As far as how this ties into CM4, they will definitely have to sort out the income economics if your salary cap and so on are directly tied into it. If your TV money, sponsorship, and so on never arrives you are going to be shedding players and staff constantly until you can't afford a full starting eleven anymore. It will be the battle of grey "fake" players determining league outcomes and that will be real bad in the entertainment department.

I wonder what effect the increased playoff spots will have in CM4 (at least from the Conference right now). I've seen clubs finish 3rd - 6th in the Conference in prior CM releases and then battle against relegation the next season. If this trend continues, they will be going up to Division 3 just to get hammered, drop back down, and then immediately drop out of the Conference too.
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Old 04-25-2003, 08:27 PM   Salary capped to 60% of turnover Post #9
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by alkinear:
And six teams will be in the play-offs for 3rd division as of next season.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was under the understanding that it would be Division 1 only initially, spreading lower depending on success? Could be wrong...
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