retired_mandys

You're absolutely right, and you're absolutely wrong.

This is what really bugs me about one of the common complaints - I lose every time with a big team, it's so unrealistic!! Real life big teams don't!

Correct. Real life teams have managers who change things regularly. Look at Arsenal. Last season they lost over HALF their Premiership away games, dominating most of the matches but losing, which is precisely what you have described. So what happened? They changed their approach, combated the physical nature of the opponents, and improved.

To put it another way - some people are having a lot more joy than you with different tactics, which shows quite clearly that it can be done. I hate to bring up the old 'it's your tactics', but it's probably your tactics.

If a real life Liverpool manager saw a pattern in his losses, he wouldn't sit back and complain, he'd change his approach until he found something that worked.

Gone are the days when you can just pick a formation and play a whole season successfully using it, never tweaking the tactics partway through the game. And that's absolutely realistic.

If you don't think it can be done, try downloading one of the tactics in the tips forum. You might pick up some useful tips (I'm not enough of a tactical expert to give you tips myself, but I get by quite happily).

Oh, and Fowler's three and a half minute hattrick was against Arsenal. It happens.

retired_clr18287

Yes, but im managing Liverpool--and have tweaked and used about 30 different combinations of tactics and formations---im going away from home and dominating and have at least three times as many shots but they get one chance and score!! The players wont listen--you tell them to rarely shoot from long range they still do it--tell them never to come forward--they keep coming forward--i dont know how i can make my point any clearer!

retired_jkennett2001

Do a simple test - save the game before an away match and go on holiday for one day so your Assman will be in charge - make sure he uses the same players and tactics. CHeck the result. Watch the report highlights - see what's happening. If the result in the beginning is the same - then it's your tactics.

retired_clr18287

Experiment--saved before 1st game of season

http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?i...verpoolug2.png

Try again--differnet tactics and formation

http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?i...verpoolms1.png


As you can see the same old problem

retired_kmurphy8

This was 4 matches, there is no formation on earth in IRL that makes the opponent 100 % effective in converting chances to goals. This is not like in IRL at all.

retired_tamifc

This is the penultimate example of how this particular game's 'difficulty' levels are managed.

Try as they might, SI can't seem to emulate the 'normal' flow of a real life game. If the ratio of shots on target to goals scored was the same in the game as it is in real life, you'd have cricket scores.

So instead, some variable buried deep in the game's code has human-controlled teams having, in some cases, endless shots on target (I suspect all this 'action' is merely 'match filler') but, and contrary to realism, severely limits the results of said shots.

A good tactician will of course have such an influence that game controlled teams are limited to a much lower amount of chances. But if said tactician is controlling, a minnow for example, and the opposition is much stronger, I firmly believe that the game, based on the opposition's reputation, 'tweaks' their shots to goals ratio favourably...

And thus you get the experience of the original poster. I would conclude that the game isn't cheating per say, but lays a sturdy foundation for no-win situations

retired_kranis22

jesus christ, thread number 834928498723 about this. CHANGE YOUR TACTICS. Half the people i know who have had this have just used downloaded tactics...

Philco

I look at this post and I laugh cause I just had a similar experience, just slightly odd..

I was up 3-0 until the 89th minute. 3 min addition and bam 3-3. Goals scored: 90th, 90th 92th. Seriously I think I virtually murdered my players after that match.

I was deemed to lose, badly. But I was up 3-0 and had 60% possession + more shots + better tackling, heading and passing ratio. I was a sure bet to win. And then, in the 90th minute that happens.. I don't think I've ever felt that the game cheated me more than that time...

retired_abess

Game I played earlier, my opponents had one 2 shots, one on target, and scored 3 goals.