unleashed

What does the curent ability and potential ability actualy mean? Because I have a player with ca 25 and pa 25 and he has better technical, physical and mental skills than a player with CA 60 PA 80.
I always thought CA stands for all the skills together... But how come player with less CA has more overall skills I mean if you count the skills together. ( like pace 10+ accelration4 = 14 ....and so on)

Any feedback would be apriciated.

/greetz

matteo brighi

CA is basically how a rating from 1-200 of how good the player is.

i.e. Maradona at his peak 190+
An average England International 150


If a player has a ca of 120 and passing attribute 11, 120 x 11 = 1320, his actual passing is 1320

If a player has a ca of 190 and Heading is 7, actual heading is (190 x 7) 1330.

Or something like that.

PA is the potential highest the ca can go, doesn't mean the player the ever reach it though.

unleashed

Thank you for that realy interesting explenation. So better than player curent ability is no metter if atributes are a bit lower he is still better than a player with higher atributes and lower CA. huh very interesting

shifan

actually, there is something tricky.

i dont know too much about FM06, but in CM time, here is the situation.

there are 4 abilities,

RA: real ability, range from -127 - +127
FA: final ability, as we can see from the game, range from 1-20
CA: current ability, you know that
PA: potential ability, you know that as well

there are two kind of players ability, first one is something like "Acceleration、Aggression..", those ability has equal FA and RA, they are not effected by CA. most them are physical attribute and part of mental attribute. another kind is something like "Anticipation、Crossing" with unequally FA and RA and they are most effected by CA.

so , the first kind of ability is easy to understand, the tricky part is second one. most of them are (in CM0304):

none-goalkeeper goalkeeper common
Crossing Handling Anticipation
Dribbling AerialAbility Decisions
Finishing CommandOfArea OneOnOnes
Heading Communication Positioning
LongShots Kicking Reflexes
Marking Throwing ThrowIns
OffTheBall FirstTouch
Passing Technique
PenaltyTaking
Tackling
Creativity


FA can be present as a function FA = HighConvert(RA,CA)

and HighCovert can be present as

Temp1=(((RA * 2) + CA) * 0.05) + 10
FA=((((Temp1 * Temp1) * 0.1) + Temp1) * (1/3)) + 0.5

so if FA < 1, then FA = 1,
if FA > 20, then FA = 20
if 1 < FA <20, then FA take the integer from the result.

therefore, if we bring RA and CA to above function, we will yield corresponding FA, thats the number we see in the game.

that is excellent explanation for those player you first look feel awful, general displayed low attributes but only few high attribute, but they perform like a god in the match. for example, when CA = 1, from RA = 97 and RA = 127 all can get FA = 20. so sometime, you player only has 60 CA, but score a lot, thats due to he has a "invisble" high RA.

thats how i understand relationship between FA, RA and CA, in CM time(btw it still works at FM05), but i am not sure about FM06, anyone can help? Dan?

VillaNz

!!!

Thats amazingly detailed! How did you find out that calculation?

shifan

hehe

from souce code of CMScout released bz Nygreen.

LichR

Does this mean that RA is independent of CA?

For example, if a player has 127 in all RA while having only 100 CA, he would have 20 in everything...

He would be tons better than those with CA~190?

Also, things like Acceleration/PAce which have same RA = FA, are they affected by CA?

JanMasterson

Is the 127 RA used by FM06 Shifan? i think that i seen in a post, can't remebner where, maybe in those about Art Money, that it isn't.
Did u tested it?
Jan

shifan

Jan, thats the thing i do not know, either do Jpee, as i know. so i also want to ask Dan about this.

shifan

in somehow, yes. have you played CM or FM05, there were some players, looks like sh*t, but they score a loooot. and another good thing of them, most of them are cheap. hehehe...^o^v