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Old 11-08-2006, 01:00 PM   The Official Q&A Thread - The FM Tactical Clinic Post #1
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This thread is intended as an aid to common tactical ailments in Football Manager 2007. The purpose is to address those recurring issues that many have with the game, and hopefully assist in ironing out those pesky problems. Obviously there's no guarantee that we can cure all problems as the FM2007 game engine is a complex and diverse organ; but hopefully together we can all diagnose and treat some problematic symptoms, or at least make some ground in preventing them.

So, if you either have an ailment, a diagnosis or a remedy to share, then please pop into the Tactics Clinic and post them; before I exhaust the metaphor entirely and have to resort to one of the medical dictionaries here in my office. Medical science is forever evolving- so this is all work in progress (see I’m already flogging it).

The Common Cold.

Not necessarily a debilitating illness, the common cold is more frustrating than anything else. It can cause lapses in concentration, messy goalkeeping and leaky defences. If you aren’t careful the common cold can be highly contagious, and spread like wildfire across back fours and threes alike.

Symptoms:
- Defenders making errors: giving the ball away, dwelling on the ball for too long, playing ridiculous back-passes.
- Goalkeeper makes calamitous mistakes, dribbling outside the area, giving the ball away.

Diagnosis:
- Your defenders/goalkeeper have too much creative freedom.
- Your defence have no readily available passing options.
- Your defenders are too hurried in possession.
- Your defence is unable to adapt to your passing system.
- Your goalkeeper/defenders’ mentality is too high.

Remedies:
- Decrease creative freedom for defence/goalkeeper to 5 or below (“little”).
- Make sure mentalities for your midfield are close to or mirror that of your defence.
- Decrease team tempo, or perhaps adopt a less direct passing style.
- Increase attacking training for your defenders (to improve their passing), or change their passing style to one less technically demanding (normal/direct/long- 6 or above).
- Reduce goalkeeper/defender mentality so they are less inclined to hit forward passes and (for keepers) stray off their line.
- If Defenders dally on the ball and give up possession, reduce try through balls on DCs

Impotence

Your build-up is impeccable, your intentions good, but you simply cannot score. Possibly the most frustrating FM ailment of all; chance after chance spurned with no end product, only to see your rival march in and finish the job with the first opportunity he gets.

Symptoms:
- Firing blanks: plenty of shots on goal, very few of which are on target.
- One-on-ones: you’re clean through, the nerves kick in, and you’ve blown it.
- Backlash: some other git marches in and penetrates instantly, with devastating effect.

Diagnosis:
- Some self- analysis required here: find out who’s getting the chances, and subsequently spurning them; then consider the following.
- Too many long shots: players are hitting over ambitious thirty-yard piledrivers into row z.
- Too much creative freedom: can cause the above.
- Your players are too hurried and lose their composure in front of goal.
- Your players are nervous and will miss one-on-ones.
- Your strikers are going through a bad patch, and morale is low.
- Your players are being selfish and shooting when the better option would be to pass or square the ball.

Remedies:

- Watch match highlights comprehensively to find out the type of chances you’re creating (and missing).
- Reduce individual long shot instructions to “rarely.”
- Reduce creative freedom for players spurning chances.
- Lower team tempo, particularly if playing a short passing game.
- Keep an eye on a player’s personality screen, particularly after your pre-match media comments. Use individual team talks to relax them, or reassure them you have faith in their ability.
- Increase shooting training for the player, and see above for morale.
- Lower creative freedom and if they have a passing option available, set “cross ball” to “mixed” or “often.”

This is only work in progress so please post your problems, solutions or suggestions. Cheers.
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Thatcher's Elbow

Every game and a half somebody throws an elbow, a forehead or two feet at the oppositions' head, abdomen and gets himself a five match ban and the club picks up a huge fine for ill-discipline.

Symptoms:

- More than half-a-dozen sendings off in a season for violent conduct.
- Every defender seems to bring down the opposition when they're the last defender.
- Repeated instances of players getting second yellow cards.
- Losses due to a reduced shape and reduced man power.

Diagnosis:

- Your players are too aggressive in a bad way.
- Your players are too fired up for the game.
- Your players are getting frustrated in a game they feel should be going their way.
- Your defenders are getting caught out of position and forced to make last ditch, unwinnable tackles.
- Your team have no discipline.
- Your players don't calm down after the first yellow card.

Remedies:

- Take a note of why your players are getting sent off.
- Violent conduct (throwing some body part at the opponent) should always be fined and never condoned by appealing.
- Professional fouls are caused by the defence being out of position. Lower closing down and pull pack the defensive line.
- When a player is on a yellow card it is suicide to leave them on 'hard' tackling.
- Substitute a player who has been given a yellow and is still being given yellow cards (the "it's just a warning" commentary should give you an indicator to bring the sub on)
- Keep an eye on players in the "PR" or team-talk before the game where it says "is really fired up". If their aggression is high as well they are most likely to do something stupid.
- Drop, sell or fine anyone who persistently gets their name in the book.
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*cough cough*

Erm if defenders dwell too long on the ball also look at reducing TTB
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Quote:
- Substitute a player who has been given a yellow and is still being given yellow cards (the "it's just a warning" commentary should give you an indicator to bring the sub on)
-Substitute a player who has been given a yellow card and is still commiting fouls...
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:32 PM   The Official Q&A Thread - The FM Tactical Clinic Post #5
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Just want to add my comment:

Congratulations!!!!!11!

This thread is more useful than any other tactical thread I saw here.
It explains just fine, on language that most other humans can understand, what seems to be the problem and answer for it.

Thanks again.
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:37 PM   The Official Q&A Thread - The FM Tactical Clinic Post #6
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Also I want to ask you this:

I'm playing the match and I'm better team, creating more useful chances and stuff.
Then logically, I score from one of those chances.

*But* in the very next chance for oppo team - they score, and after I score my goal they seems to become a whole new, much better team. Now they are in possession dictating tempo, game and chances.

What is workaround for that? Counter tactics, defensive tactics, lowering direct style of play, lowering tempo, creative freedom?

I'm asking this because this happened quite a lot to me.
After I score opposite team is just zealous, they run like hell and are much better team than mine from that point.

I didn't noticed that happening many times vice-versa tho :p , even if I change my tactics...
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really good idea for a thread...keep it up!
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:23 PM   The Official Q&A Thread - The FM Tactical Clinic Post #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by rashidi1:
*cough cough*

Erm if defenders dwell too long on the ball also look at reducing TTB
Rash, if you or anyone want to add more then quote the original post and add it in if you like. :thup:

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Originally posted by Asmodeus:
The Common Cold.

Not necessarily a debilitating illness, the common cold is more frustrating than anything else. It can cause lapses in concentration, messy goalkeeping and leaky defences. If you aren’t careful the common cold can be highly contagious, and spread like wildfire across back fours and threes alike.

Symptoms:
- Defenders making errors: giving the ball away, dwelling on the ball for too long, playing ridiculous back-passes.
- Goalkeeper makes calamitous mistakes, dribbling outside the area, giving the ball away.

Diagnosis:
- Your defenders/goalkeeper have too much creative freedom.
- Your defence have no readily available passing options.
- Your defenders are too hurried in possession.
- Your defence is unable to adapt to your passing system.
- Your goalkeeper/defenders’ mentality is too high.

Remedies:
- Decrease creative freedom for defence/goalkeeper to 5 or below (“little”).
- Make sure mentalities for your midfield are close to or mirror that of your defence.
- Decrease team tempo, or perhaps adopt a less direct passing style.
- Increase attacking training for your defenders (to improve their passing), or change their passing style to one less technically demanding (normal/direct/long- 6 or above).
- Reduce goalkeeper/defender mentality so they are less inclined to hit forward passes and (for keepers) stray off their line.
-if defenders dwell too long on the ball also look at reducing TTB

Impotence

Your build-up is impeccable, your intentions good, but you simply cannot score. Possibly the most frustrating FM ailment of all; chance after chance spurned with no end product, only to see your rival march in and finish the job with the first opportunity he gets.

Symptoms:
- Firing blanks: plenty of shots on goal, very few of which are on target.
- One-on-ones: you’re clean through, the nerves kick in, and you’ve blown it.
- Backlash: some other git marches in and penetrates instantly, with devastating effect.

Diagnosis:
- Some self- analysis required here: find out who’s getting the chances, and subsequently spurning them; then consider the following.
- Too many long shots: players are hitting over ambitious thirty-yard piledrivers into row z.
- Too much creative freedom: can cause the above.
- Your players are too hurried and lose their composure in front of goal.
- Your players are nervous and will miss one-on-ones.
- Your strikers are going through a bad patch, and morale is low.
- Your players are being selfish and shooting when the better option would be to pass or square the ball.

Remedies:

- Watch match highlights comprehensively to find out the type of chances you’re creating (and missing).
- Reduce individual long shot instructions to “rarely.”
- Reduce creative freedom for players spurning chances.
- Lower team tempo, particularly if playing a short passing game.
- Keep an eye on a player’s personality screen, particularly after your pre-match media comments. Use individual team talks to relax them, or reassure them you have faith in their ability.
- Increase shooting training for the player, and see above for morale.
- Lower creative freedom and if they have a passing option available, set “cross ball” to “mixed” or “often.”

This is only work in progress so please post your problems, solutions or suggestions. Cheers.
Millie- excellent, nice one. :thup:
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kuna:
Also I want to ask you this:

I'm playing the match and I'm better team, creating more useful chances and stuff.
Then logically, I score from one of those chances.

*But* in the very next chance for oppo team - they score, and after I score my goal they seems to become a whole new, much better team. Now they are in possession dictating tempo, game and chances.

What is workaround for that? Counter tactics, defensive tactics, lowering direct style of play, lowering tempo, creative freedom?

I'm asking this because this happened quite a lot to me.
After I score opposite team is just zealous, they run like hell and are much better team than mine from that point.

I didn't noticed that happening many times vice-versa tho :p , even if I change my tactics...
Does that usually happen in the second half, after leading in the first?
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:46 PM   The Official Q&A Thread - The FM Tactical Clinic Post #10
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Great thread, i'll revise this when i get home cause my Milan team is suffering from The Common Cold & Impotence at various times during the season.

I had some cases of Thatcher's Elbow too, but the worse is when one of yours throws a zidane-style headbutt(well..that's how i imagine it :p) to a opponent , gets sent off and then almost allways a yellowcarded teamate becomes "furious" with the referee and gets sent off too.
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