Jaz Guram

OK, so obviously in the real world sending a promising youngster on loan to somewhere where he'll get lots of first team action has obvious benefits.

In the game, however, does doing so stunt as opposed to help these youngsters develop?

I'm starting to see real improvements in stats for youngsters I'm developing with a rotating training regime policy, as well as regularly tutoring them under more established players.

Previously I'd spent very little time developing the kids in my teams, but am now starting to really enjoy this aspect of the game.

Does sending them away season upon season help their stats to improve?

DDEEFF

im not sure exactly but i believe it mirrors real life. where they get needed expierience, but at differnt clubs the training may not be up to standard, so it may seem that the player has decreased in stats slightly but experience does add something to mentality i believe. dont quote me on that

spankie

I believe that playing in the first team boosts the youngsters CA a little.

There may be a loss of some attributes with inferior training facilities and staff, but once you get the player back he should start having more improvement on his attributes then if he was stuck in your reserves.

bcm

I would rather keep them trained by my coaches and playing them in reserve and in my first team once in a while. Best to playing in last 15 mins of a game I am winning.

Asmodeus

I'm with Spankie (oo-er).

Apparently first-team experience boosts a players current ability; whereas training quality and facilities help a player's attributes reflect his current ability. I don't know this to be fact, it's purely my opinion based on what I've read on the forums, and my experiences with the game.

As Spankie says you may see some initial depreciation in their attributes when they go out on loan, but when they return the following pre-season, after a month or so of superior training they will look better than ever- because their current ability has improved.

Feeder clubs are particularly useful here I find.

Kristian

Have to say I agree with spankie and Asmo.

Although the technical skills are frequently not improved or even slightly lowered, I see the physical stats improving, and I suspect (though obviously can't know) that the hideen mental stats improve too (i.e. ability to handle pressure, being up for big games, and occasionally the coaches start to mention high levels of professionalism when they come back too).

Of course these may improve anyway, just as a function of the player maturing, but 6 months or a season out on loan seems to help.

Lathund

I'm with Spankie (oo-er).

Apparently first-team experience boosts a players current ability; whereas training quality and facilities help a player's attributes reflect his current ability. I don't know this to be fact, it's purely my opinion based on what I've read on the forums, and my experiences with the game.

As Spankie says you may see some initial depreciation in their attributes when they go out on loan, but when they return the following pre-season, after a month or so of superior training they will look better than ever- because their current ability has improved.

Feeder clubs are particularly useful here I find. </BLOCKQUOTE>

This is my experience too. I've had players with great PA in my youth team for years, stuck at a decent, but not good enough, level. Then they play a season, or just half a season, on loan. And while they return with the same stats they had when they left, they will show a massive improvement later on, especially during their next preseason.

Seems to me like your second paragraph is correct. Experience raises their PA to a certain degree, good training "fills up" that PA with techincal, phsyical and mental stats.

But of course, if you only have a small number of youngsters coming through you might have the ability to give them games in your first team. That will have a similar effect, but you'll see their PA reflected in their stats sooner. It's just a question of whether you can afford to drop your star striker for some games to give his long-term replacement some experience.

Lathund

"PA" in my second paragraph should of course be "CA".

Jaz Guram

Excellent stuff guys. Food for thought here. I've decided on loaning out players once they've had a chance to be tutored by an established player first, and then only to teams in divisions with a decent level of football and where I think they'll be playing week in week out.

Will report back how it works out in the long term.

Kawee

I believe that their attributes will improve most with our training. But its the hidden attributes that we cna't teach in training. such as consistency and "big match" attributes. Training cna't teach you thta, only exp. So i send them out to improve those att. When they come back, i'll then do the working on their actaul technical, physical, and mental attributes.