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Old 05-22-2003, 03:20 AM   Anticipation... not to be underestimated Post #1
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While I am surely telling many of you how to suck eggs, I have been struck how valuable anticipation is for LL strikers. I have a chap in my team (who shall obviously remain nameless) who has no discernable talent in finishing, long shots, off the ball, pace or acceleration, which I understood to be nice things to have if your going to try to put the bag in the auld onion bag. However, he has 14 anticipation and, accordingly, is generally in the right position to put away a shot parried by the keeper and is always the first to react to any stuff up by the defence. Accordingly, even allowing for his relative ineptness in front of goal, he is my top scorer for the season. It seems to be a hard quality to find in the lower leagues and is well worth keeping an eye out for when scouting. Interesting point is that without the 2D engine I'd have no idea why he was so good.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:11 AM   Anticipation... not to be underestimated Post #2
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Border-line, but I don't mind having a new discussion thread.

dd hit it on the head. I think you get a better feel of what stats are vital in LLM than you would managering a PL side where all players have double digit numbers for all thier stats.

Strip off all the fancy stats which most LL players are lucky to have numbers above 5, and you are left with the basic footballer. Most times high stats in a few but vital areas makes the player a LL world beater. A good LL defender is that way because he has highish stats in the areas vital to being a Defender, and the same goes for all the other positions. These players will never cut the mustard in the higher divisions but are vital to any LL side.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:24 AM   Anticipation... not to be underestimated Post #3
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Personally I would say there are more important attributes for a striker than anticipation, but I don't ignore it completely and I'm playing CM 01/02 still

I find that good LL defenders are often a bit better at performing at the top level then say a good LL striker. But a LL midfielder or striker needs to step up to another level!
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Old 05-22-2003, 02:12 PM   Anticipation... not to be underestimated Post #4
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Border-line, Taips? I'd say it's reached up as far as Dumfries.
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:44 PM   Anticipation... not to be underestimated Post #5
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I find this is tipping...

Anyway, whilst we're at it: in my experience the hidden stats are all determining, certainly at the lowest level. I've had seemingly absolute donkeys, with hardly any attribs over 10 at all, who would play consistently and satisfactorily from C2C up until Serie B. And SCs with fantastic relevant attribs who couldn't score with a 100 quid in a Thai brothel.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DJ:
I find this is tipping...

Anyway, whilst we're at it: in my experience the hidden stats are all determining, certainly at the lowest level. I've had seemingly absolute donkeys, with hardly any attribs over 10 at all, who would play consistently and satisfactorily from C2C up until Serie B. And SCs with fantastic relevant attribs who couldn't score with a 100 quid in a Thai brothel.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree with this - the 'compare player' function brought in for 01/02 really help to show hidden stats...

In Sweden I found a 20 year old keeper, and he didn't have very good stats really - 5 for reflexes, 8 for positioning and handling or along those lines, but he was rated better than my current 'keeper and quite few other I was scouting who all had better stats...

Turned out to be one of the best LL 'keeper I've ever had (Only 10 goals against in 26 games in my promotion season...!)
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Sorry, I had assumed it wasn't tipping if it was so bleeding obvious. I wasn't about to start revealing "supertactics" :p
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Comparing players? Hidden Stats?

Hmm, hadn't thought of that.

/makes mental note.


I used to find in CM3 that for llm, players with good dribbling would have phenomenal success in attack and those with good positioning would be diamond in defence or DMC.

I still haven't worked out what the key attributes are in CM4 but being a bit zippy seems to work wonders.
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