retired_jodyedgar

LLM doesn't seem much easier to me in CM4. I haven't had much time to play CM4, but I had the same sort of immediate success that I usually did with LLM in previous versions. Yes, the ability to loan players makes a real difference, and it seems like your scouts are much more effective at finding quality players on the cheap, but I think my team would have been almost as good anyway.

My team had phenomenal form long before the transfer window opened up in December and we were able to bring in a couple of players on loan (I play in Belgian D3). And, other than a backup striker and another bench player, we didn't really buy anyone. Our top striker, all our defenders, and most of our midfielders were all existing players with the club.

The loan players helped, but they simply added more power to an already deadly attack. But our best loan player was a young Brazilian prospect who was from a domestic Belgian D1 club, so I don't think that was entirely unrealistic.

retired_pmetzger1

it hurts

cwc, more fool me for looking I suppose, but if you must link then try hiding all the player names.

I don't see your problem, you've taken a below average 3rd division side to the top of div2 in just over 1 season (despite your injuries, which is what I think you're getting at). However, if you are trying to prove that LLM is hard, you've gone an unfortunate way about it - you couldn't possibly hope to have done more with your team in the time you've been there.

BTW, *opens can of worms* your AM/F R hardly seems a realitic signing

retired_tye1234

Yes I have go to agree with you. Leigh RMI 5 seasons promoted 4 times... Okay so up in the premiership I struggeled to avoid relegation for two season before boldly making it in to europe and subsequently winning the Prem.... No super tactic it just was too easy!!!

Bring back the pain of having a good year bringing in some new players for that extra push only to find yourself in the religation myre the following year....

I personally think that human teams are favoured over computer teams. Switch it round and lets have to use every trick in the book just to finish out of the relegation zone.

KingsbayYHPE

LLM's not about making it difficult. It's about making it realistic (which is, of course, why CM4's incompatible).

If you want unrealistically difficult, try swimming in treacle.

retired_pmetzger1

There's a big difference between releasing players on a free selling them for £0. You have to compensate the players if you release them (if they have any contact left).

You have to make a choice - in CM you certainly don't pay up the contract in full if you release a player, but if you hope someone will bid £0 for them and they don't then this will cost you more money.

retired_tye1234

Okay so I did post before saying that CM4 was too easy Leigh RMI from conference to premiership in just 5 years. Well that was I think with EP1 applied, as LLM was proving too easy I then went straight to the premiership as the Mancs an it will not surprise anyone that I won everything in sight and had a team that Real Madrid could only dream of...

Okay so having read various post about how much harder LLM is since EP3 was applied I started again once again with Leigh RMI to see if it is true....

Okay so it's christmas 2002 I am in 20th place in the conference and my board are not entirely impressed with me...

Instead of knowing I was going to win at home and hoping I was going to win away. I am now praying for home victories and having not scored an away goal in 8 games I am battoning up the hatches in the vain hope of getting a 0-0 draw.... My one free signing that I thought would drive me forward started the season superbly ... Alas my midfield general played 26 minutes of his first league match (His rating was already up to 8) before breaking his leg for three months. Two weeks before he was due back he injured his f***ing groin in training... Physio busy laying on hands but he aint back yet.

This has certainly been one of the most frustrating starts to and CM career I have had ..... and isn't it great

[This message was edited by Hogie on 19 June 2003 at 12:07.]

[This message was edited by Hogie on 19 June 2003 at 12:07.]

retired_pmetzger1

+1 etc

'cos that's what it looks like this thread is being reduced to

retired_jodyedgar

Try the old trick of taking him off the transfer list and then putting him back on. This tends to wake up other clubs, who might have missed him the first time you put him on the transfer list. Also, the role you assign him when he's transfered list can have an effect. Sometimes it's better to keep a player as a backup, squad rotation, or hot prospect, rather than to set him as no longer needed by the club.

retired_pmetzger1

We don't do exploitation of loopholes....

retired_jodyedgar

I would never call that a loophole. It's called a flaw in the game. The coding was never corrected to make sure that clubs are not missing out on transfer listed players. The scouting for other clubs was flawed and left the human manager at a disadvantage. If it was coded properly, then we would not see so many cases of players going two or three years without an offer.

If a player is being offered up for free, then someone is going to take him eventually, especially if he is an experienced player with promotion success in his past. Any suggestion to the contrary is entirely stupid, and I believe that trying to ENHANCE REALISM by working around a flaw in the game is acceptable. It's not as if we're talking about using a cheat to do something entirely unrealistic. Consider it the equivalent of the manager releasing a public statement to make sure that all clubs are aware of his transfer listed player and his potential to help another team.