retired_karyn62269

Apologies if this has been posted previously... I've had a quick look and can't see anything.

I've installed v7.0.1 and all of a sudden the tactics that worked reasonably well in v7.0.0 and even the last version of FM, but in v7.0.1 they just seem to do nothing - as if the tactics have been completely rewritten.

I've pretty much tried everything in order to change them and have ended up resorting to one of the default 4-4-2 formations in order to get results but there's no satisfaction in that.

I've even uninstalled and gone back to v7.0.0 to prove that I'd not done something screwy with my tactics and sure enough everything dropped back into place on the older version.

Have I missed something here? Is there something so different about the tactics in the updated version? I'm afraid it's getting to the stage where I'm either going to roll back to v7.0.0 permanently or even stop playing I'm that frustrated with things.

retired_queenjulie

i have had exactly the same issue wityh 7.0.1 and have never won a game sinnce

retired_CardonaR

That's bizarre. I just recently bought FM2007, and I installed the new patch immediately, so I can't possibly comment.

Surely they didn't completely rewrite the match engine in a patch though?

retired_jtibbetts

try my 4-4-2 diamond for the patch muahahah...

retired_prttylilthang45

I've found in 7.01 teams just can't defend .. not just match engine games - I'm currently playing a game with Man Utd and the amount of school boy errors resulting in goals against is ridiculous - of the type tactically you can do nothing about, ie. Freekick against, opposition has 2 men standing unmarked at the back post, your 3 defenders marking ONE player, you know where the ball is going ..

But also in the "non match engine" .. Chelsea won the league in my 1st season having conceded 33 goals in the season (even as as Man U had conceded 38 and finished 2nd). Chelsea's 33 against was the LOWEST in the division that season

Vanilla FM07 wasn't pretty but 7.01 is seriously FUBAR ..

retired_prttylilthang45

Oh .. and forgot to mention : What is it with full backs and center backs swapping positions? Number of goals I'm conceding where my fullbacks are suddenly playing as Center backs and my Center backs are as full backs is unreal ..

zoddy11

I'm finding that the hours I spent on my tactics for my Leeds team worked pretty good in 7.00 but when I patched to 7.01 and started another new game with Leeds I was getting tanked.

7.01 is a lot harder!

retired_carljoseph

It seems to ahppen with every new edition of the game and the first patch. Tactics that worked originally fail miserably after the first patch. Certainly happened for me last year

retired_sampson01

i was using one tactic for season 1 that worked great(3-4-1-2), and in this season im getting tanked every game and conceding the stupidest goals imaginable. i've put the game in the box and thats it for me and her now

retired_Skullboy_1

I've had all the problems you lads are listing here, and I have fumed and cursed, and cried my eyes out to Rashidi, Cleon and the lot. But after about 5 seasons (on various games) I started to read up on everything those guys wrote about tactics.

So I started at the back and ran matches in full to see how my players moved and reacted, and slowly but surely a tactic began to emerge. I did this on a game I started with Anderlech, and it took me the first half of the season to get it "right", but then I hardly conceded at all in the second half of the season and went on to win the league. Now I'm in season 4 on this game.
In two seasons with Anderlecht I won the league twice and got a UEFA cup semifinal where I owned FC Bayern for two matches without scoring and lost on a 1-0 aggregate. I played about too much in the cups with poor players and never won those. After my season with the uefa cup semi, I got appointed to FC Bayern, won the league with some hefty 5-0 and 6-0 victories over Dortmund, Schalke and the likes. I won the UEFA cup, and lost the German cup final after yet again dominating, but wasting too many opportunities. Now, starting my 4th season I am head of Man Utd, and I'm sure as hell gonna win there as well! In 3 seasons now I have a win percentage of just below 70% of my matches, I think.

So it is possible, and I'm not one of the tactical wizkids like Rashidi, Cleon, nonleague and those guys. Just your average, ****ed off gamer who had enuff of losing matches.

It does take more out of you though, to make succesful tactics, but then again, we have been nagging SI for more realism for nigh on 14 years now. My fear is that they have made it too demanding so as to alienate the "casual gamer", but after 12-13 years of this game I had become a casual gamer, and now I'm back to the good old anti-social gaming!