zeroth

My assumption is that its a good few games?
I am not talking about a tweek (although, does it take time there aswell?), I am talking about variations of formation.
So for instance:
You may play a standard 4-3-1-2 at home, but away from home use a 4-1-3-2, you will probably be using the same players in the 2 formations though.
Is this detrimental to your teams ability to get results?
I tend to buy/build teams that have intelligent footballers within them, and with ones who can actually play more than 1 position (e.g. on the left/right or centre of a midfield 3). So I would have thought that going from an attacking formation to defensive one wouldnt cause too much of a problem... (I am in a rut of 2 wins in 12 after 7 wins on the trot, which in turn followed 6 straight defeats...)

Thoughts?

retired_elpata

A different shape is a completly different formation, so it confuses players if they play a different formation.

zeroth

Thanks...So I was correct in my original thinking..one tactic tweek accordingly, I am rubbish at tweeking!

retired_Rick21

but should'nt players be able to play a variety of formations.

Look at Liverpool when they won the champions league, during that season they played 4-5-1, 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 3-1-4-2 etc etc

retired_rjw13838

I dont think Chelsea even have a formation this season..

retired_elpata

but should'nt players be able to play a variety of formations.

Look at Liverpool when they won the champions league, during that season they played 4-5-1, 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 3-1-4-2 etc etc </BLOCKQUOTE>

We are talking FM here not RL. Although Liverpools domestic season always suffers until they find the right tactic and players.

True and the players are confused to hell, thats why they change it at half time.

retired_janellewood86

but should'nt players be able to play a variety of formations.

Look at Liverpool when they won the champions league, during that season they played 4-5-1, 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 3-1-4-2 etc etc </BLOCKQUOTE>

They can, but only to an extent. Once the players have a good level of understanding, they should be able to change from, say, a 4-4-2 to a 4-1-2-1 or a 4-4-1-1 or similar. However, you're still best off playing one formation and changing your approach on that until it's clear that this particular situation needs a different shape.

retired_touchofklass

Hmmm... at the moment I am using 4 tactics in my game. Home and away are the same formation (where the home tactic makes use of farrows and the away tactic has none at all), I have a tactic to consolidate which has a different shape and also a "all out attack"-tactic which is again differently shaped. If I understand things above correctly, this is a hard thing to achieve good results with?

zeroth

You see when I started this thread I was in the middle of having at home:


4-3-1-2
then away

4-1-3-2

Essentially the same players turned out in the team the difference was that Phil Nevile was pushed back to the DM role away and up to the MC when at home...Tim Cahill was pushed back to MC away and AMC at home...There were some tweeks when it came to what went on attacking and defensivley but as I say the tactics were very similar.

To start with it was bad ( I lost 6 on the spin)...I then won 7 on the spin...I then started loosing, and messing about with the tactic and eventually looked for help...

I am guessing that AI kicked in somewhere in the middle of my winning streak and blew holes in my tactics...

I am trying out the CMaddict tactic now...simply because I just want to stay in a job!

retired_janellewood86

No, that should be OK. The thing is you shouldn't radically change your shape and try to play 90 minutes with it. Major changes in shape should be for emergency situations (backs-against-the-wall cup semi-finals, needing that extra goal to force the result etc.) I have regularly gone to bizarre shapes like 2-4-4 or 3-2-5 to force a result, but I would never, say, suddenly play 3-5-2 against Manchester United away from home. Best to stick with what you know until it's obvious that it isn't working.