Destruction

on the issue of hard tackling to force yellows, reds. you have to include btight marking as well as closing down. the only way they can be played out of the game.

retired_irisjade

Interesting thread. :thup:

I'm particularly keen to try out the hard tackling of pansies and the infirm.

As default my team mark tightly, and defenders close down very little.

I take a different approach. Rather than focus upon the strikers I go for their supply.

If the opposition has a big man up front then I will show wingers and full backs who can cross onto their weaker foot.

If the opposition like to play to feet I close down the midfielders who have over 15/16 creativity (being mindful of flair and technique), and trying to close down only one.

I will show a striker onto weaker foot if they are an 'only' (this has worked wonders against Micheal Owen), if they have a level of finishing & composure.

I am interested to know if anyone has targeted defenders or GKs who are less skilled when on the ball. Have you been able to force errors?

janisfit

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XJG makes the excellent point of low bravery - some of the top playmakers/strikers in the prem have low Bravery. You can routinely get these guys down to ratings of 5 as they never challenge for the ball after 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]

If ur right, this strikes me as an unrealistic part of the game. I mean, surely in real life it cant be done that "easily" ?!

retired_udah2008

Excellent thread, thanks for the help

Personally i like to play a compact game, with no wingers and 3 men up front, so i don't close down the wingers cause otherwise my fullbacks come up too high and leave too much space behind their back.
What i do instead is closing down the center midfielders (especially playmakers) because i usually have more people in the center of the field than the opposition has.

Like others here suggested, i too tackle hard on players with low bravery, just to impress them I haven't noticed any side-effects so far, last year i even won the Fair Play price

I also look for one-footed players and put (all off) them on "force to weaker foot" (i don't know the exact english term as it is used in the game as i play in dutch, but i guess you know what i mean )

What i do to GK's is the following:
tackling:light
closing down:always
weaker foot:yes, if he's one footed
I have scored several goals from GK's mistakes so far, but ofcourse maybe they would have happened without those instructions too. I just like to believe i forced them to error

...sorry for my poor english

retired_udah2008

Can't edit, but just wanted to add, that it has been working great for me so far... Scoring an average of 3.3 goals per game and conceding 0.4
Before i started giving these instructions i was struggling.

Also, i don't tackle hard on strikers (and keepers), as you suggested and as i said i hardly get any send-offs while the opposition get's plenty.

mike29

I still don't get the show onto foot option, for eg, if the opposition is right footed, the instruction is definitely show onto left foot but there's another option 'show onto weaker foot', whats that?

Maybe we got it all wrong, maybe it should be 'show onto weaker foot' of the opposition?

retired_cowboy42

I like to play a very attacking possesion based game my def line is high on the pitch.

I am using OI to get the ball back as fast as possible most teams i play against use 4 defenders the one that has the worst passing gets set to show onto weaker foot and C.D always the rest of the defenders are set on Tight marking and C.D always works wonders (i play with a FL FC FR forward line up so their is always some on in position to mark one of the defenders.) possesion goes up alot.
You need the ball to score goals to quote a famous dutch coach

retired_sexy_chili25

I had a thought (please dont run away!) i never use opposition instructions unless i think the player on the other team is really good so like if my team comes up against lampard i would close him down at all cost, thats just 1 example, as far as i see these instructions, you should only use them if your playing a team that has much better players then yours and you are really concerned by what they might do against you, the reason i think this is becuase the instructions are conflicting our already set out team/player instructions for marking & closing down & tackling. Why would you select tight marking (no), and then in opposition instructions set tight marking to wingers & forwards & possibly an amc, to me this is conflicting your teams instructions, and should only be used to make/close down/hard tackle, key players for the other team. The only thing that i think is diffrent from the other choices is show onto weaker foot, it seems like this would do no halm at all if used in the right way.

Another reason i am thinking like this, in 06 when we played big game we had a media message before the match talking about a key player for the other team, it give us a list of options, would we be marking him? would we not worrie about him and give them somthing to think about?, this to me is what has develpoed in 07 as oppersition instructions.

I could be right i could be wrong i am not 100% but so far i never use opposition instructions unless on a player i worried about, this could be because 90% of the time im playing as a good team, so the need for these are less, but i thought i would bring it up just incase i am onto somthing.

retired_nashfine

You should try them.

I use them no matter what team I am and have found it works wonders it doesnt seem to affect the team instructions either it just sets out how to play a man if he has the ball.

I mean in the barcelona team there is more than just ronaldinho you dont want on the ball

retired_plentyn

I find this very useful to tune my tactic.

The problem is the tackling command. It was reported in the beta that the game is mixed up.

If you click on a player and have the column on the squad show each players tackling command.

Which is correct is mixed correctly assumed to be easy tackling. As I would thoughr it to be normal.

If its wrong here is it wrong in the main tactic. Hence why people get lots of red cards in the game.

Onto this system.

Adding onto this nice little discusion.

I find tight marking and closing down any midfield and attacking player can easily stiffle a better oppononent or close a match out.

I think I only ever conceeded 1 goal in the last 10 mins and that was down to the 5 minute wait to get to tactics.

During the main action though

I tend to like to use a tight marking on central midfield and hard tackling. It does concede freekicks at times but generally it unsettles the oponents to concede the midfield I like to win the midfield battle. As its key to success or failure to a match.

As for forwards I use closing down as they just try to move my defence out of position otherwise.

I do have a formation the AI uses which gives me grief.

4-1-2-2-1

He has 2 very wide AML/R's men who are pushed up to play a very stretched 3 up top when attacking.

Wingers seam very effective tool to unsettle your backline. Coupled this with a lone striker its a deadly AI weapon.