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Old 01-08-2007, 11:21 AM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #1
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I currently play a 4-5-1 formation with a DM, 2 x CM, an AMR & AML and a lone striker.

I have put my defenders on defensive and low creativity. My DM on defensive, closing down lots. My 2 CMs are both on Normal/mixed for everything. My AML&R are both on attacking, cross often, run with ball and forward runs. My lone striker is on attacking (not full) and Mixed/normal for all of his other settings.

I play with a direct (1 click above mixed) and moderateley quick tempo with counter attacking.

The problem I'm having is that I'm outstanding against the better teams and usually match them or beat them but when I play the "lesser" teams I often get beaten, have very few chances and just generally play terribly! I've tried turning off the counter attack, playing more attacking, changing the defensive line but none of it seems to work. I just can't seem to dominate against the teams that I feel I'm expected too.

I'm currently in my 6th season with Doncaster and I am in the Premiership with what I feel is a team with excellent ability.

Please help!
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:24 AM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #2
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Just a quick addition.

My first season in the Premiership I finished 13th after starting OK but then plummetting to 20th for about 10 games only to have a great last 12 games to recover to 13th. This was after changing to the above formation.

In my second season I started very well and was in the top 5 until Christmas and then had another terrible run and ended up finishing 13th (again).

I'm sure you'll all say that 13th is about right for a newly promoted team but it's the lack of conistency that annoys me, especially against teams who are rock bottom and haven't won more than 2 games all season!
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:49 AM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #3
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Try a 4-4-2 to potent ur goal threat
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:08 PM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #4
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I've tried that in the past but with mixed results. I play a little better against the lesser teams but get absolutely hammered against the top teams. Seems like I can't win either way!

How do the players react to swapping formations totally i.e. for the big games against the better teams I stick with my original formation (4-5-1) but against lesser teams I swap to a more traditional 4-4-2?

Will the players get confused by me swapping tactics or is OK to swap between two tactics that they've played with before?
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:13 PM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #5
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So your tactic is effective against teams that are willing to attack you- but not so good against the lesser sides.

Try a higher team mentality, high width and perhaps a slower and shorter game against teams that sit abck and defend against you. You should create more chances.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:21 PM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #6
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So your tactic is effective against teams that are willing to attack you- but not so good against the lesser sides.

Try a higher team mentality, high width and perhaps a slower and shorter game against teams that sit abck and defend against you. You should create more chances.
Hi Asmodeus, do you think I'd be OK stiking to the 4-5-1 but with your suggestions or should I swap to a 4-4-2 as suggested by Salzia? I like the idea of sticking to one formation and tweaking it for individual games rather than changing formation.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Asmodeus:
So your tactic is effective against teams that are willing to attack you- but not so good against the lesser sides.

Try a higher team mentality, high width and perhaps a slower and shorter game against teams that sit abck and defend against you. You should create more chances.
Hi Asmodeus, do you think I'd be OK stiking to the 4-5-1 but with your suggestions or should I swap to a 4-4-2 as suggested by Salzia? I like the idea of sticking to one formation and tweaking it for individual games rather than changing formation. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah I think so- as I said just try changing your team approach a little bit to play against teams that sit back against you, as it sounds like those are the teams you're struggling against.

Failing that you could then try a 4-4-2.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:09 PM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #8
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I think its ok to stick to a 451 mentality. I have been using a 451 tactic for my Derby team and it is doing fine against the lesser and the bigger teams.

Chelsea, ManUtd, have used the 451 tactic in the past to some success so I dun see any reason in it not being able to work.

Why not try a patient method against the weaker teams. Slowly as u get more confident, u can make it more attacking.
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:55 PM   Tactical Confusion - Unusual Results Post #9
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One thought - you mentioned you use Counterattacking. That means your team lays back inviting an attack, and then counters. Against a weaker team IRL that might mean you were allowing them space to organize an attack that they might not otherwise get.

I'd try "unclicking" counterattacking against the weaker teams.
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