retired_OrangeOne

By top level I mean competing in any European competition as awell as challenging at domestic level also.

Do you use slow players? Players that have say 8 or less for acc and pac?

retired_OrangeOne

I don't mean a team full of slow coaches, just a couple who are doing a job for you?

retired_aries

I always try to get rid of any player with below 10 acceleration and pace. Might just be me but I've done the same thing every release of FM.

Mind you, I've occasionally had a giant, slow striker as a target man in the past, with wingers set to aim for his noggin. :thup:

Depends on what tactical settings I want to take advantage of I guess. I never have slow defenders though.

retired_bjm619

I never buy anyone with less than 15 for pace - they end up getting skinned all the time and it is not worth it.

Although I have noticed on a few occassions that some players with low pace ratings seem to fly by anyone - even the likes of Henry etc.

Doesn't happen often though.

firefighterhilf

I've only just got Gateshead into The Premiership so can't really comment. However, I feel that pace may be a little too important in the game as I generally look to buy players who are pretty quick.

This coupled with the fact that in-the long run the physical attributes of regens seems to decline may lead to an over-all poorer quality of play in the later years of a game.

Again this is just speculation though as I haven't got that far in FM08 yet.

retired_OrangeOne

I know say for instance if you play a slow center back, then you ideally want you defensive line to be atleast deep and that you tell them not to go closing down all over the pitch, because if they miss a tackle they'll be skinned for pace and unlikely to recover.

But it doesn't matter where you play slow players and while certain tactics might help slightly a player with limited pace, the bottom line is that a player who is slow will nearly always be second to the ball if he's up against a nippy forward.

In FM07 I had used slow players with decent success, but with FM08 it is alot more differcult to accommodate these guys?

Emm

As some of you are aware, I have something of a penchant for "big fat slow blokes" . It wasn't too much of an issue in FM07, as with the right combination of tactics and other abilities a player could flourish, (even at the top level), without decent pace or acceleration.

In FM08 however I have found the pace is absolutely key for attacking players. With defenders it is less important because no matter how quck they are, they are still going to wander aimlessly around while a through ball completely passes them by.

For attackers at any level, I have found that pace is a must.

deantibbetts

It does make a hell of a difference and i've started taking more notice of it.

When I took over Bayern, Valerien Ismael was 30 I think and had 16 for pace, he was brilliant first season. Next season it dropped to 14 and he wasn't as good, next season 12 and he was noticeably worse and by 33 he was don to 8 and getting caught out all over the place.

33 isn't dangerously old for a central defender and all his other stats had improved or remained the same but as soon as he lost the pace he was a liability.

There does seem to be too much emphasis on pace though, as I bought Leonardo as left winger 20 for pace and acceleration and he has been amazing whilst my other left winger was obviously better than Leonardo but wasn't doing as well. Same happened with Barnetta and Giles Barnes, Barnes was way more gifted and better attributes but Barnetta got the nod because his pace would destroy teams.

retired_fireone

well seems you all go for pace...
I like fast football with pacey wingers too, but...
recently i got job at napoli and when i rewieved the team i realized i'm stuck with midfield full of slowish players (fastest midfielder had 13 for pace) and two fairly poor wingers.

I decided to get rid of wingers and form my tactic around slow midfielders as they were actually really good and with a lot of potential.
so i decided to put dm and three cm's infront and, to pack the midfield, push the fullbacks to full attacking mentality and forward runs.

as you know, napoli doesn't have top of the squads in italy, and with season progressed to march i found my beloved clu to be in the second spot 7 points behind inter and still looking good to stay second.

so, it is possible to get something out of your slow side, just create a tactic that can support it.
on the other side, i didn't participate in euro cups so i can't tell that side, but i guess all you need is good cover for 1st team and a quality player or two to up the standards.
cheers

Emm

blayhod. But I bet you had quick strikers.