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i know its an ongoing dispute but i want my own say
i actually dont mind the slider system, but i only think it should apply to pre match and half time i think its a bit silly being able to tweak mid game, and how much it affects the games, managers can surely shout themselves into a frenzy telling players what to do mid game but i dont think they can give detailed insructions on 7 or 8 different variables
another thing does anyone know how good a pc i need to play all the european leagues or more dont like just playing in england but my pc screams in agony when i just play down to BSS and BSN
Trouble is then you would have to implement something for what you can do mid-game because there's no doubt you can make tactical alterations from the touchline if you give instructions to one of your players.
I don't know if you can feasibly limit the number of "notches" on the sliders for mid-game (e.g. Very defensive, defensive, normal, attacking, gung ho) and then allow the full range at HT and pre-match...
In previous versions this may have been reasonable, but FM8 with it's lunatic match engine?
They'd need to limit the parameters a bit to avoid the ME going nuts...can you imagine the horror of being completly impotent for an entire half whilst the FM8 ME goes into one-goal-scoring-chance-every-few-seconds mode for the opposition.
For away games when you're the heavy underdog, if that keyhole combination of sliders, individual instructions and pre-match comments aren't EXACTLY right, utter slaughter will follow with no chance of complete, panic striken revamp in the tenth minute.
Originally posted by damienroden:
i know its an ongoing dispute but i want my own say
i actually dont mind the slider system, but i only think it should apply to pre match and half time i think its a bit silly being able to tweak mid game, and how much it affects the games, managers can surely shout themselves into a frenzy telling players what to do mid game but i dont think they can give detailed insructions on 7 or 8 different variables
another thing does anyone know how good a pc i need to play all the european leagues or more dont like just playing in england but my pc screams in agony when i just play down to BSS and BSN
cheers
im just waiting for the abuse now
It may not be realistic to make such detailed tactical changes during the course of the game, but it is still very feasable for the manager to change certain aspects of the tactical play during the match....I think within the confines of the FM match engine, it works fine.
Originally posted by playmaker:
This is one of those instances where realism doesn't matter. The game is better for allowing you to spot problems and correct them.
Totally agree. Having realism in for realism's sake is wrong when it's to the detriment of the game experience.
I have to say though I hate the new thing of the game continuing while you are on the tactics screen - I much preferred having the game stop completely and being taken to a full tactics screen. Now I have to either make do or hit Pause every time.
And yes I know someone will say it is more realistic, but only marginally. In real life the game lasts 90 minutes so taking a minute to think about a tactical change while the game goes on is neither here nor there. In game if you take a minute on the tactics screen while you let the game go on you've usually missed 5-10 minutes of the game by the time you return to it!
I changed my mind it would be stupid with the match engine, I get frustrated enough already, dont want to be launching the moniter across the room, came so close in the playoffs to doing that. Anyone else got the problem withunless you get the perfectly tweaked tactics your just doing more harm than good.
Originally posted by glamdring:
I have to say though I hate the new thing of the game continuing while you are on the tactics screen - I much preferred having the game stop completely and being taken to a full tactics screen. Now I have to either make do or hit Pause every time.
And yes I know someone will say it is more realistic, but only marginally. In real life the game lasts 90 minutes so taking a minute to think about a tactical change while the game goes on is neither here nor there. In game if you take a minute on the tactics screen while you let the game go on you've usually missed 5-10 minutes of the game by the time you return to it!
Agreed - as a long-time computer user with occasional wrist pain, I'm not in favor of any game mechanic which puts me in a race against time. I wish for an option like
"Automatically pause when I go in to Tactics", just like it used to.
It may "Not be realistic to have an infinite amount of time to tweak and toy", but that's not what I'm worried about, its more like "It takes me longer (in game time) to drag three subs onto the screen than it does for a real manager to say, "Smith, on for Jones on the left. Tomson, you go in for Richards as a striker, Matthews, you'll be right back. Go." ... assuming that those three have been warming up.
tatctics should be changed 
so I think it the best to just let it be...
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