Mell87

I'm in 2011 year. My team is totally incosistent. None tactic works more then 4 matches. Whatever team talk I choose, they doesnt listen. They go on the pitch like one legged despite having better attributes then opponents. 5 strikers are injured at once. Whatever tweaking I do - it doesn't work. I read for hours theorems and other **** - doesn't help, it's lost time.
Really I don't want to waste more time to read/try/tweak/test for months to get tactic working - it should be fun, not hard work.

I played all CM/Fm series and none of previous was so bad. I have always liked to take bottom league team into premiership - now such game is not fun at all (I know, realism...)

I don't like realism in this game - I have realism looking thru the window. I need fun and playability - this version doesn't give it to me.

I will not moan more because it's probably my last post on this forum - I will not play this game anymore. It's pity because CM/FM was my favourite game for last 10 or so years.
Anyway I will have more time for my daughter and wife

retired_miss_eve21

amen brother!

seems a bit too hard to get a working tactic. fuss' seems to be the only one that works for me despite creating my own and trying others. if it wasnt for that guy i dont think id still be playing

van_frost

I know the feeling mate, best game i have played the past 10 years, but I don't enjoy the game now, I have the same problems as you.

Playing 500 hours of this game, you would expect by now, I would win something, not won a single thing. Realism isn't for everyone, I don't have the effort to sit and make a world class tactic, which in 6 months time, won't work.

Making this my last FM game, I will buy another management game.

retired_vkya215

this time last night i would have agreed 100% i had played over 20 seasons and had the same problem nothing worked for a period of time but then i read some of the things on here about tactics and changed mine a little

I've used this tactic now for 45 league games over two seasons 15 in the back end of one season and now i'm 30 games into the next season which is season three of my new game.

My team is Rushden so there is no way the tactic can be called a "Chelsea one" as my team is made up of free transfers and loan signings

Anyway its 4-4-2 Direct and it was doing okay but then it started to go the way of everything had in this game and that was downhill.

So i changed it and the way i play the game.

Both centre mid are now DM (both free tranfers), I have made my team use a target man and my target man (men) are over 6ft.

Finnaly i no longer answer the pre game press.

My record using this tactic over 45 games is

Won 31
Draw 10
Loss 4

At the moment i'm top of the conf by 16 points.

So what i'll say is stick in there and just keep trying things, but again this time last night i was also at my end with this game but today it has all come good

Remember the tactic still needs good players for it to work

retired_hazel84

I actually miss a cheat formation, like you had in 1994 versions (4-3-3 with strikers in the middle)

You could choose whatever team you would and you would eventually become the best team of all. That was fun.

PS: Money cheat, and other kinds of cheat isnt the same fun.

retired_rose33

I've posted this in another thread but seems to fit here perfectly.


While i think i can understand why S.I. chose to use the tactic thing they put in this version ie constant tweaking etc, i feel a little bit put out. It seems that S.I have singled out the people that chose to d/l a diablo or any other 'super tactic' and as a result have spoilt the enjoyment and the realism for the people that just did it their own way.

In all previous versions i made my own tactic and purchased the players i thought i needed to make it better. Sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't and for me this was realistic. In real life Fergie brought the likes of Kleiberson and Djemba Djemba to Man Utd and sold a certain Mr Beckham. Fergie stuck to the 442 but it did not work because of the poor quality he added to the squad and the main supplier of goals for nearly every striker Beckham played with missing. See what i'm getting at V6 and before = realistic.

Carrying on with the Man Utd theme, in the 90's every team United played against knew beforehand that they would play 4-4-2 with two wingers. But because of the quality of the players hardly anyone could stop them.
Fast forward to the post Beckham era and United start playing with a 4-4-1-1 formation to accomadate Ruud resulting in the end of the most successful era in the clubs history. This season it's back to the good old days and Fergies best formation with quality players. Yet when he changes it for hard away games ie Arsenal and Celtic to name a couple. The team fall on their faces. This isn't fiction it's fact.

If you look at most managers they all have their own style that they think is the best way for their team to play. Just look at the likes of Big Sam at Bolton. He plays the same way week in week out. Boltons success is based on his style and the quality of players he has managed to bring into the squad.

For me S.I have tried to thwart the super tactic generation that enjoyed taking lower league teams to the Champions League Final in ten seasons. The key word is enjoy. And for me i used to enjoy making my own tactic and then trying to find the quality to make it work. The present version does not reward success and makes the game frustrarting to the point where it is unenjoyable. If people want and enjoy useing someone elses 'super tactic' then why stop it. Personaly if i have to use a cheat in any computer game i find it less rewarding but thats just the way i am and i'm pretty sure a lot of other people feel the same.

For me and many other ppl that make their own way it's made the game less realistic and less enjoable as a result.

retired_porcelina

yeah it would be intresting to see how many players have stopped playing/buying the game now?

i for one have stopped playing it now cause in two hours you get no where expect a bald head lol.

granted it was to easy with diablo though.

retired_vkya215

again would agree with that if i was typing this yeaterday.

But when your 16 points clear at the top of the league all is well at the moment

Guess i am just waiting for the bubble to burst and my team to go into free fall but at the moment that is not happening.

I've even lost my main two forwards for a month and with my two replacements still went on to win all the games.

I was the lowest ever playing this game last night but now i can not stop playing, but like i said only time will tell if this tactic can compete for the next 20-30 seasons and me moving on to different teams and re building once more

Hopefully it will

retired_mgavlick

Super-tactics are dead, but it doesn't mean you can't do get minor teams prmoted to the top divisions. Many have done that. The enjoyment in designing tactics that out-perform the game is still there, it is just that it is harder to do, and other factors, such as poor team talks and dodgy press releases complicate the issue.

retired_a tuite

Can't help but agree, I'm still playing, but it doesn't seem possible to avoid what the game and si are doing, cheat.
The 'hours without a goal' feature is stupid and relentlessly common.
Quality players lose form for no reason and you just feel like you have no control over the team at all.
Just seems to becoming more infantile as every new version comes out, when surely it should be rewarding the time we all spend on it.