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Old 09-09-2003, 03:44 PM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #1
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cavenagh:
You wouldn't happen to know if Porvenir have any bitter rivals, like liverpool and everton? Just to add some colour to the game.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't know but it has always bothered me that you can't find out. You would think IRL someone would fill you in on these kinds of issues, but there's no way to see rivalries in CM. Maybe that should be part of some unofficial league guide.
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:11 PM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #2
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If I would go to Argentina and become appointed manager there in the depths of LLM, I sure wouldn't know who my rivals were. I even wouldn't know the language people speak there.

There is no good and no bad about editors. There is only a huge NOT-IN-THOUSAND-YEARS sign on them. If you really want to find out about the rivalries, wait until you find out in the game, or send a piece of email to the club and ask them.

Editors...pah.
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:36 PM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #3
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The rivals message had flaws in CM01/02, I'm not sure whether it still has in CM4. Basically the board would moan about defeats to teams who were certainly not local rivals.

Whether the database caters for non-local rivalries(e.g. Chelsea/Leeds), I'm not sure.
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:48 PM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #4
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Humph3. I'm on nightshift. I get monster pĂ*ssed off just by being on nightshift. This monster-pĂ*ssed-off-edness is magnified to gargantuan proportions when guys totally disregard the rules of the Forum, not guidelines, and start to tell us how it's ok to use X on this occasion, or Y on another.

Editors are banned.

Period.

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Old 09-09-2003, 05:36 PM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oliver "sedeath" Finker:
If I would go to Argentina and become appointed manager there in the depths of LLM, I sure wouldn't know who my rivals were.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm sure your president or some assistant would fill you in. "Whatever you do, don't lose to X at home!".
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I even wouldn't know the language people speak there.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You wouldn't get hired if you didn't, so for the sake of realism you may as well assume you do. Fancy things like personal translators probably only happen in higher divisions.

You're right about the E* tho, that's no reason to use them. But if somebody comes up with a league guide that has that information I wouldn't care how he got to it. The downside is that these kind of guides probably come from some GPG/TT muppet who'd fill it up with other stuff that makes you permanently blind.
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Old 09-09-2003, 06:14 PM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #6
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I've always wondered why rival clubs would be a "hidden attribute".

Humph3. You caught me on a bad day, I possibly wouldn't have worded it so strongly on another...well, maybe I would.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> El Porvenir are from Buenos Aires, as are Boca Juniors and River Plate. But i don't think that Boca or River can truly be counted as rivals, in the same way that Hendon or Brentford don't rival Arsenal and Spurs.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

River Plate.....Never heard of 'em. Must be a very obscure LLM team
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Old 09-10-2003, 11:31 AM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #8
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Humph3:
I was thinking, it surely wouldn't be hard to add GPS co-ordinates of every team into the database. That way, the game could calculate how close teams are to each other, so that over time rivalries could be established and develop.
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I've seen slight evidence that this might already happen...when I used to manage in Wales, often the only interested English players would play for LL teams near the border, i.e. Hereford, Telford, Shrewsbury, Kidderminster, etc.

Then again there's been a few funnies on this forum, where people have bought a player from Holland to Belgium, for example, and he finds it hard to adjust to the lifestyle.
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Which I can actually understand a lot. Very different culture, language, and lots of rivalry between people of those two countries. Just because they are neighbouring countries it doesn't mean that settling down and adjusting is easy.
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Old 09-10-2003, 04:15 PM   The plight of the Argentinian Llama. Post #10
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What sedeath said. I also wouldn't be surprised if some Welsh have problems adjusting to the lifestyle in England, especially when moving to an urban environment with no freely roaming sheep. Heck, there are Bavarians who never really adjust to the lifestyle (and language )in Berlin - they should add this feature to CM.
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