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01-30-2008, 01:40 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #21 | | Registered User
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theres loads of stuff that can me extended or "done to death" in fm08, and still plenty of stuff that needs to be fixed. no need to go trying to be revolutionary when its simply not called for. fix whats out there first
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01-30-2008, 01:41 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #22 | | Registered User
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Tactical sliders - not one person who says they should be replaced has come up with even a remotely good alternative, let alone a better alternative.
Set piece editor - isn't going to happen any time soon bacuse it would give the human managers a massive advantage over the AI. It would need an absolutely massive amount of work to get it working right, and an even larger amount of work to get the AI using it properly.
| As long as 'super-set-pieces' are not possible and SI have programmed enough variations for the AI to use, I can't see why it is not achievable with a year's development.
Not that I am saying it is easy, just that I am more optimistic.
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01-30-2008, 01:46 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #23 | | Registered User
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Because the guy who'd have to do it already has his hands full with the match engine as it is.
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01-30-2008, 01:47 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #24 | | Warming Up
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Maybe splash out and employ another guy then  .
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01-30-2008, 01:49 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #25 | | Registered User
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The 'fix the game' sentiment has been out there since FM 2006. But for some reason SI hasn't done it. Even without significant new improvements, new bugs are introduced (e.g. from 7.0.2 to 8.0.1).
Between the options of having an unchanged game + new bugs and having an significantly improved game + new bugs I'd easily go with the latter.
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01-30-2008, 01:51 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #26 | | Registered User
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fm 08 isnt an unchanged game though, is it?? whatever you do, ther will be bugs, and, logic says, in a completely new game, there will be more bugs than on a newer version of what we have now. imagine the forums then??? its bad enough as it is now, it would be a nightmare...
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01-30-2008, 01:51 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #27 | | Registered User
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The 'fix the game' sentiment has been out there since FM 2006. But for some reason SI hasn't done it. Even without significant new improvements, new bugs are introduced (e.g. from 7.0.2 to 8.0.1).
Between the options of having an unchanged game + new bugs and having an significantly improved game + new bugs I'd easily go with the latter.
| You appear to have missed the point.
The purpose of NOT changing the game dramatically is to get rid of new bugs - no new features should mean drastically reduced bugs.
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01-30-2008, 01:53 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #28 | | Registered User
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The purpose of NOT changing the game dramatically is to get rid of new bugs - no new features should mean drastically reduced bugs.
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Not really. The act of fixing one bug can easily create five more.
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01-30-2008, 01:56 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #29 | | Registered User
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<BLOCKQUOTE>The purpose of NOT changing the game dramatically is to get rid of new bugs - no new features should mean drastically reduced bugs.
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Not really. The act of fixing one bug can easily create five more. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes but in theory fixing one bug would create fewer bugs than adding a whole new feature.
Whether or not it works in practice is no doubt determined by a number of variables beyond my (our?) comprehension.
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01-30-2008, 02:00 AM
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Is it time for an all new version of the game to be released, and not just another data update and a couple of new cosmetic features? Post #30 | | Registered User
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ackter:
<BLOCKQUOTE>The purpose of NOT changing the game dramatically is to get rid of new bugs - no new features should mean drastically reduced bugs.
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Not really. The act of fixing one bug can easily create five more. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes but in theory fixing one bug would create fewer bugs than adding a whole new feature.
Whether or not it works in practice is no doubt determined by a number of variables beyond my (our?) comprehension. </BLOCKQUOTE>
New features can create new bugs but can also fix old bugs. But it's ridiculous to suggest that the game should not be improved merely because there are bugs still to be fixed.
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