retired_moyeral

i agree...this game totally fook...

retired_rohan

Well, I don't know but sometimes the odds are seriously favouring you, you actually have a better chance to lose - the game's mechanism to find balance and render "shock" factors...

retired_rohan

I'll buy that if the ratings for defenders are horrible. I don't know about the situation with the OP but in many of my games where I lose frustrating games like this, my defenders are actually performing decent (meaning almost all of my defenders get an 7)

Don't get me started on GK...it's the most unpredictable part of FM2007. My excellent GKs are always getting a season average of like 6.66...

My favorite part: the day before a match the opponent's 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice goalkeepers are either injured or suspended. They have to field an 18-yo GK from their youth team who concedes 10 goals in like 3-4 youth league games. You think you're being blessed with an easy win, right? WRONG! That kid suddenly steps up and saves all of your shot-on-targets. I reckon such things happen once in a while in professional football but what are the odds that such thing happens so many times and it's the human player who's at the receiving end every time?

retired_cathy17

It means you're suppose to lose when you got many, if not, all of things that requires attention (tactics, media, teamtalks, instructions,etc) wrong and did not change it.

retired_cathy17

IMO, the AI doesn't nominate certain games to lose nor it is given a superiority boost. It simply adjusted its tactics and instructions to counter yours. If you'll notice, the AI changes tactics so often during the game. It doesn't stick to just one tactic, it uses several. Thus, it's reacting to your tactic. Now, once it gets it's tactics right, now you're in deep trouble. So, what do u do? You must react to AI's change too. It's not a one way street affair. U just can't win using one tactic and one set of instructions. Everytime the AI changes and suceeds, you must make counter measures in every instance. Otherwise, the AI usually succeeds in netting that "surely the winning goal!!!" Sometimes, when i have my tactics and instructions right, as when i score 4 goals in the first half, the AI sometimes go on the defensive. I'm thinking he's conceding the match and doesn't want anymore to add to the score line.

retired_Cat1123

It's quite amusing how many of you simply contradict yourselv'es when explaining to others like myself why the game does what it does.

First of all you tell us that this happens in football all the time, your just having one of those days when your luck is completely out and then the next minute you are saying we simply got our instructions wrong and did'nt make the sufficient changes when we should have?.

How on Earth is anyone supposed to differentiate between the two, especially if you annihilated the opposition for a full 90 mins, only to be beaten by an o.g., or some other ridiculous scenario?.

Even the game itself explains it better than you lot, at the end of the game it will say "***** should have won this easy" or "***** wont believe they lost this", but wait, this is one you will actually concede that the game is actually wrong and that your right?.

So all your really doing is cherry picking parts of the game that make US wrong and yourselv'es right, even when all evidence(even the game itself), shows this to be the complete opposite!.

At the end of the day you want to be right, as you know only too well that if not?, we've hit the nail on the head and this game has become a complete and utter failure and you just cannot live with that scenario!.

retired_kellyk

Its not the game, its the guys who're not smart enough to be able to beat an AI. It amazes me sometimes how people can't put their egos aside and just admit, they're not as smart as they think they are.

buffdaddy110

It means you're suppose to lose when you got many, if not, all of things that requires attention (tactics, media, teamtalks, instructions,etc) wrong and did not change it. </BLOCKQUOTE>

No, this isn't true.

In a bid to learn how to set deal with certain opponents and their tactics, I've replayed a game over and over and over - nearly always with the same outcome.
I tried this a lot in the early days of FM06, and in FM07 I tried it as West Ham against Liverpool. No matter what tactics I tried, whether I was concentrating on defending and stopping their players or focusing on trying to score, I failed abyssmally.

I played the same match about 20 times - nearly every time Liverpool would score in the first 5 minutes, Crouch would run rings around my defence and often score a hat-trick. In the few games I was able to keeep the scores level in the second half, Sissoko, Xavi Alonso or Hyypia would score a 30-35 yard screamer to win.
I ONCE had a second-half lead and played the last twenty minutes defensively, narrowly, and high closing down of Alonso & Sissoko - they scored two long range efforts, then from a corner!
Everything I tried had the opposite result - Gerrard (the highlighted dangerman) was average unless I instructed my full back to tackle hard and mark him, and team to close him down - in those games he'd score.
Crouch - mark tightly = he scores a hat-trick including running with the ball from the half-way line and outpacing Ferdinand.
Alonso - close down always = Sissoko will score a long-range screamer.
Sissoko - close down always = Alonso will score a long range screamer.
Both of them - close down always = Hyypia will score from outside the box.

I managed one draw out of nearly twenty games - but when I used the same tactics again, I got stuffed 3-0 down by half-time.
I concluded that the odds against me getting a result in that game were so great that my tactics were irrelevant.

retired_Cat1123

Mmmmmmmmmm, dont wish to personalise this Rashidi, as that'll just close another good thread, but here's my reaction to that!.

1. I'm suprised it has'nt hit home by now but i have had much success with this game and that is'nt the problem.

2. I d/loaded and tested your very own tactics and the outcome was very much the same.

You say your amazed by individual ego's?, well i'm amazed that people like yourself cannot see what is right under your nose?.

SI have the perfect ally in someone like yourself, who is able to close threads and ban people on a whim, simply because they do not agree with your personal take on things.

retired_kellyk

Hammer1000

Do I ban people on a whim or have I allowed you to remain here? Like I've said before there are countless approaches people take...there are flaws in the game however to come out and outright blame the engine for it is ridiculous.

To claim that the game is an utter failure when there are countless people who derive a great deal of enjoyment in it is a logical flaw. You have been directed to threads which show that people are having success. You claim that you too have been successful, however you cannot seem to expect that you may lose the odd game or two to an utter fluke.

Despite your claims in FMBritain that you have decided to hang up your mouse, you seem intent to fly this flag despite my repeated requests that you find a more constructive way of doing things. I have even suggested routes to you, but you continually tout screenshots when this is can never be enough.

You are as guilty of cherry picking parts of the game as evidence that you are right. So long as you take that approach you cannot expect me to sit idly by can you.

Do I defend the game blindly. No I do not as I have said before there are flaws, but to say that the game is an "utter failure" is completely illogical and it undermines the efforts of all the people who are trying to make an attempt to make this game easier to play.

The use of my tactics should not in any way constitute proof that you know what you're doing since there are others who claim they work. Do I believe your lone condescending voice or do I look at the history of my achievements vs yours? Or do I look at the sum total of feedback and then compare it to yours. Like I've said before, I don't encounter your problems. SI have not asked me to be their ally and I'm no-ones lackey, but I do stand up to be counted when I feel someone is being unreasonable.

If you want to make a geniune contribution to the game then do it. But shouting at the top of your voice and trying to incite a Roman Mob will not work here. You have been warned.