retired_Cat1123

Orange - Now you just have to sit back and wait for the "that happens in real life all the time" quotes!.

awful

retired_rayrhi

spleeb

Unfortunately there was absolutely nothing that could have been done here. You can listen to all of the theories posted about how you tactically dumb you are, how you had the wrong throw-in taker set up, and how your goalkeeper should have distributed to the ball to your assistant manager. The bottom line is that your control over the match was a mere illusion. If the computer wants to score it can, if it wants you to not score, it can. SI have stated that the AI has the same choices/responses as you in a match. WELL OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO SAY THIS. You just have to accept it and move on, but expect that it will happen again sooner rather than later. If you can accept this, then you have learned to tolerate FM. And that's the problem with this game—you have to tolerate it to enjoy it.

retired_cdenise

Hey guys,

Many of you pointed out the poor percentages of headers and tackles won by my team, which I of course noticed as well. How do I improve this?


prince_capri

Match Replay - http://www.box.net/shared/a1nuj4xdox

Default Tactic - http://www.box.net/shared/4px50oby7x

Thanks everyone for the quick replies!

retired_rayrhi

Half Time Orange

What is the hair length of your centre backs? I think coupled with man marking, hair length is a vital factor. Also, what's the average mean of your defensive line and mentality? If you can get the circumference of your zonal marking radius and multiply by the square root, then you might win your next match. I think because you never took this in to consideration it's only natural that every shot the computer has goes in. Let me know how you get on.

retired_rayrhi

I'm not having a go here mate, and I truly do appreciate you taking the time and effort to help the lad out, but how can you really attempt to diagnose and solve a problem when the proof of the problem is right in front of your eyes? Just look at the stats. Why is it that people continually make excuses to justify the flaws of the game? How many more of these posts and screenshots do we need to see before people finally realise? As far as the devotees are concerned, this is all an occurrence due to our complete and utter lack of tactical ability. Hammer and I have won everything! We don't post because we can't succeed, it's because the game continually farts out these ridiculous anomalies yet it's always dismissed in the name of loyalty and ignorance. I absolutely REFUSE to believe that it does not happen to everyone. Actually, I've got it!!! Two games were made! 50% of us got the flawed one, and the other half got the great one! No wonder! Does anyone want to swap so you can see for yourself?

retired_acivin

I am not even gonna argue against this! Mostly because I know there is no point too. I don't have any case here.
I mean this is the worst case scenario, I believe. And I remember these screenshots were posted in the general forum.
So yea, like I said, I cant explain this!

And no Hammer, it does not happen all the time in real life. As any person (who know about football) would point out, this is highly improbable (I didn't say unrealistic). It is just highly improbable. Can still happen!

retired_acivin

hehe....first of all mate, don't worry! I like the fact that people stand their ground and truly preach/teach what they believe in. Personally, I am not like that, I am on the fence. But I'd rather exhaust all the possible scenarios first rather than jumping on any sort of conclusion. And theat is why when I offered help, I did not make any end-comments. I left the debate open to actually analyse as to what was going on. A healthy discission is a great thing, and I love the fact that both sides here passionately argue their case. For that: :thup:

Secondly, like I have tried to point out numerous times before, numbers cannot always sum up the gain. There are three important things that you have to remember:
1. Possession is not equal to certain dominance.
2. More shots on target does not equal to more goals, not always.
3. Luck plays a big role in these games. If a player, who has earned a 4-rating, accidentally scores a goal in the end and wins the game, its still a win. I mean that particular player might have been really pathetic all day and let his team down. But if in the 90th minute, he heads in the only possible chance of the game and scores, the other team would still win. And it happens quite a few times.

Thirdly, like I said, I am not ruling out the fact that AI might be coded such that these things happen. But before I, personally come to such conclusion, I would rather exhaust all possible cases! Till then, I would advocate what I believe in. Just like you!

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

retired_rayrhi

Well said, Prince. I wish more people were as open-minded as you to be honest, mate. I was always on the fence until my recent experiment and the countless shots on target/goals anomaly that benefits the AI.

retired_cdenise

Ha Ha. I like your posts Arteta...so I guess then that results like this will just have to be accepted? I mean is there actually something I can do or will it just happen?

retired_rayrhi

I don't have the empirical evidence to prove it, but from mine and many other peoples' observations, I have to say that unfortunately, the game will often just make you lose in order to eliminate 'super tactics'. You see, in the past, as you well may remember, there was a point in the game when your team and tactics were so good, that you simply could not lose. I think in this version, that to counter this, the AI will 'nominate' certain games that you will lose (or at least have a mighty hard time winning) by giving the AI a superiority boost. This is when the game is at its most frustrating—as perfectly demonstrated in your screenshot—when suddenly everything the AI touches turns to gold (1 shot 1 goal syndrome), whilst your clinical and composed natural finisher can not hit a barn door with a shovel. I recently replayed a game 27 times! Yes 27 times! that I thought was a little fishy, and I won only one of those games (the 27th). Even in games where I absolutely dominated, the computer would claw a goal from nothing, the most noteworthy being a 94th minute own goal by my full back against a team of 10 men. It's a cheap way of balancing the game, but SI have deemed this a necessary step to combat overwhelming human dominance. If you can accept this then your game experience should not differ too drastically. Personally, I can not accept this false illusion of control. I think it's disgusting.