ricgild

What about a thread about very difficult LL teams to manage?

I'll give it a try.

When I got CM4, I started playing as Carlisle. Result: Got promoted each season right up to the EPL.

Not very difficult, but I had used an editor (watching max potential for players), thus feeling like a cheating *******.

I therefore got rid of the editor, and started playing as Chester. Now playing according to the "official" LLM rules posted in this forum. The result: Got promoted each season right up to the EPL.

Still looking for a callenge, and started playing as Vianense (Portugal). Result: Spent most of the time on vacation, leaving the assistant manager (who was awful) looking after things. Got promoted each season right up to the PL.

By now I started to get frustrated. There had to be some club, where I would have problems getting promoted. Decided to give Spain a try, and took charge of Cultural. Same result as ever; got promoted each season until I reached the top. Also spending months of the season on vacation, because the challenge just wasn't there.

I was now ready to quit playing CM4, but decied to give it on last shot. Decied to take charge of my home town club (situated 200 meters from my appartment); Frigg (Norway). Result: Third season - got my first promoton. I haven't felt this happy since my first CM experience with Hartlepool on CM0102.

Playing Frigg is extremely difficult: You have no money (zero), you are loosing money each season despite spending way less money on wages than the budget allows you to do, hardly any foreign players want to come and play for you, the training facilities are crap, it is impossible to get OK coaches, there is only one team being promoted each year, and so on.

Conculsion: Looking for a challenge - try Frigg (Norway).

PS: I stop playing when I reach the top divison, mainly because of my love of the LL's, and partly because of the stadium expansion bug...

The Taxman

Almost a bragging post mate.

There are many, many teams out there with no money, crappy facilities and a poor reputation. It wouldn't be LLM without it.

wearrapipple

I'm not convinced the game is quite that easy when playing by strict LLM rules. I have only really had experience with the mighty 'Ton in SFL division 3.

First season I tried all sorts of wierd tactics and managed to finish about 5th. The fans were beying for blood, quite rightly.

The second season I tried an experiment of setting to the most basic of formations and left the Asst. Man. to pick the team. Much to my annoyance when I came back a few hours later from holiday mode old Asst. Man. had won promotion to div. 2 and probably would have got through the 2nd if it hadn't been for injuries, sales and retirements (I left settings to buy no players and only sell at valuation - best players got poached )

Asst. Man. had struggled in season 3 due to lack of aforementioned purchases leaving the 'Ton midtable. I had been sacked by the time I got back to my PC but was humbled that the AI had done a much better job than me.

Is the game too easy? I think not. If you play by strict LLM rules it won't be possible to get the best players, make dodgy transfer deals to boost your finances or use tactics which all but guarantee success.

Much hair pulling and tantrums brought on by mediocrity which you know you could remedy with a quick look at the GPG and TTF will be washed away when you finally get a result off your own back... assuming that day eventually comes

Cosmo-poof

I'd say River Plate....almost no talent there.

The Taxman

wearrapipple summed it up well. If you play to the LLM rules (which is basically just not cheating) then it shouldn't be that easy. If not then you should take it up with the crew at the GQ forum.

T!mbo

To summise:

Guy wins lots of things 'playing the LLM way' (Use of editor previously = Big fat 'Hmmmm')

Guy lives near Frigg in Norway and recommends it as a good challenge for LLM

So LLaMa's have now got to get Frigging

Cobbler

*Slaps self for totally failing to spot "Frigg" on first reading of this thread*

To summarise Cranberinho's summary of The Taxman's summary of Wearrapipple's summary:

To achieve such a level of success, either:

(a) You're cheating and we sniff haughtily in your direction,

or

(b) You're far too good and we hate you

Nobby_McDonald

Be like me...

Leave Bury for Nottingham Forest, a team I have an affinity for after spending three years watching them (and Stoke) whilst at university there (loved those cheap NUS tickets )...
Surge to safety in the latter half of the first season...
Second season, win a paltry two matches in your first twenty games with four past and current (real life) England internationals. Get sacked and end up looking for anybody who will have you whilst the other zealots are merrily going about their business of making their teams good.

Now that's LLM.

mkus

Frigg off

bigpants

Any team I manage using llm rules is feckin' hard. yes I have got promotions yes I have won stuff, but that doesn't make the game easy!

trying to sign decent players for low wages, trying to hang on to one good coach/scout/who ever is tuff, balancing the money has to be one of the hardest things to do. all this alongside keeping the players/board/fans happy and I think you've got a fairly decent challange.

PS is Feckin' a team in norway too?