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01-28-2008, 12:32 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #11 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Jimbokav1971:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Mike7077:
I've been having this problem and it's driving me nuts.
I was told that it's a known issue.
| It was a known issue ou of the box but if anything it will be going the other way with 8.02 (I think).
The general concensus is that there are not enough booking for defenders, (I think). </BLOCKQUOTE>
It's central midfielders who keep getting booked for me. I could probably agree about the defenders. I'll certainly be looking to see if things change after 8.0.2.
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01-28-2008, 12:34 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #12 | | Registered User
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I had 3 players sent off and gave away 3 penalties in my first league match of the Icelandic season with AI Akranes. Haven't played that savegame since so I don't know yet how it'll pan out for the rest of the season.
In Blue Square North I think I am up to 7 red cards now with Whitley Bay from ~35 league games. Can't remember yellow cards, but they were exactly matching our number of goals a while back before we went on a goalfest - somewhere ~60 yellows I'd think though. We were also awarded 3 penalties in one game, but I guess that does happen from time to time...
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01-28-2008, 12:40 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #13 | | Newb
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Defensive mid gets booked left right and centre - set to Normal tackling.
And don't get me started on the number of penalties I concede. At one point it was 4 matches on the trot. Tackling set to normal for everyone
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01-28-2008, 12:40 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #14 | | Warming Up
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Sorry, forgot I had played 1 season in Iceland too.
England.
Iceland.
N.Ireland.
Peru.
Never had a problem with sending offs or yellow cards.
Saying that, I will usually take a player off at half time if he has been booked in the first half.
Common sense really.
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01-28-2008, 12:50 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #15 | | Warming Up
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Just checking my DM in my N.Ireland save now.
Games played 141(5).
Yellow cards 9.
Red cards 0.
Now I'll check the guy that did the job before. He's left now.
Games played 153(38).
Yellow cards 30.
Red cards 0.
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01-28-2008, 01:10 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #16 | | Registered User
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I've played with a DM in my Gateshead team for 11 seasons now and can honestly say I've not noticed a problem with the number of cards he or any my other players pick up.
And I always use the opposition instructions to hard tackle certain players. Maybe something in your tactical setup (other than the strength of the tackles) is causing you to get a lot of bookings?
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01-28-2008, 01:10 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #17 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Jimbokav1971:
Saying that, I will usually take a player off at half time if he has been booked in the first half.
Common sense really.
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It's not always possible or sensible though - I like to make tactical substitutions so if I have 3 players on yellows at HT I'm not just going to hoik them all off instantly! Plus in that Icelandic save the first 2 were straight reds in the opening ~25 mins.
Certainly you could make an argument though for taking off the guy who got a yellow for conceding a 1st half pen. I didn't though so he decided to complete the job in the 2nd half by conceding another and getting sent off |
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01-28-2008, 01:19 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #18 | | Joe Blow
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Depends on the ref and the country. In Germany I got 4 reds in 3 years and in my first season in Italy with exactly the same tactic i've had 4 reds and it's just turning Januray.
This seems realistic though as we constantly see players pulled up for high feet etc in Europe that they would get away with in the Premiership.
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01-28-2008, 01:49 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #19 | | Warming Up
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Rep Power: 3 | glamdring. It may not alwys be possible but iy is sensible most of the time.
In N.Ireland for example I only had 3 substitute spots for the first 4-5 seasons.
I deceided that I would often prefer to play a player slightly out of position than have a defender or a defensive midfielder play 45 minutes while already on a yellow card. Don't get me wrong, sometimes a player got sent off in the first half or sometimes they got 2 yellow in the 2nd half after I had used my subs. I'm not saying it's foolproof but it certainly weighs the odds in your favour and is sensible in my opinion.
The other thing I would say is that I play with a deep defensive line. Because of this, my defenders are not often caught on the wrong side of the defende, (apart when they go walabout but that's a different story). Because of this they are less likely to give away fould which they might be carded for. By defending deep and tight marking, my defenders, (and defensive midfielder), have to make VERY few tackles but MANY interceptions.
My defensive midfielder has a quite low closing down so he sits in front of the back 4 a la Makelele and is also more prone to making interceptions, (where the risk of a foul is low), than tackles, (where the risk of a foul is high).
I would bet that in the Gerrard example above, he is given creative freedom and attacking instructions. This will result in him moving forward and away from a good defensive central position. When his team loses posession he will be in a more advanced position than he would like defensively and due to me mental and physical satats have both the desire and the physical ability to get back to the opposing player in posession, but in doing so give away a free-kick.
If anyone who is experiencing this is not convinced, try looking at your tactics and see what you can change. I promise you won't regret it :thup:.
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01-28-2008, 02:11 PM
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Refs are card-happy Post #20 | | Joe Blow
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I'm playing in England and my cards/match is pretty low. Only problem I have is that it is almost only my central midfielders that get booked. :thdn:
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