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Old 11-09-2006, 11:13 PM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks '07 Post #521
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I'm sure you will enjoy your mac

Persuading Sir Bobby to return would be like prising a rib away from a black men. Drink + Hot girls+ Uni Parties = HEAVEN. Although I'm sure FM and SIgames could be added to the equation.
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Old 11-10-2006, 03:09 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks '07 Post #522
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Quote:
Originally posted by nonleague:
<BLOCKQUOTE> Things that Im not gonna change is the pairing up of D-L and DC CD, since this works very well. Playing high line at home, and deep away also works, so that one will not be changed either
Hi Supersaints Im a little confused with this what you said as when looking at your tactics you are using a deep line at home and a high line away. Please can you confirm which are you actually using please. :thup:

Regarding your theorys let me show you the rest of my results with Bristol City during seasaon 1 as I really feel that there is a solid formation here but it needs some work regarding attack.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">H Yeovil W 1-0 54% SH 8 OT 3, SH 15 OT 7</pre> </BLOCKQUOTE>

Geez, thats for typing when your brain is out of function. I have somehow managed to write the D-L from the old setting(version 2), into the version 3 excel sheet. And I didnt notice that before you mentioned it. So the DL and CD for DCs should be the opposite.

I probably just forgot to change it when using copy and paste All other values are the correct ones.


I agree that the 6-tactic suit is a bit defensive, but as you say its just about tweaking it a little more.
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Old 11-10-2006, 06:59 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks '07 Post #523
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Nive work again supersaint, but i'm confused about the new D-L setings. Is it possible for you to edit your original post for the version 3?

I like having a tactic for different opposition tactics, but I need a home tactic against attacking opponents and an away tactic against defensive opponents.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:16 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks '07 Post #524
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I've found that getting a good target man really makes RoT explosive, since so many goals come from quick high balls to a striker. :thup:

I signed Nazer Barazite from Arsenal, 6'4 19 jumping, 20 heading, he gets man of the match every game almost when set as a target man.
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:15 AM   Tactical Theorems and Frameworks '07 Post #525
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My apologies for the confusion I have brought on to you guys. Guess it gets that way when your brain is full of tactical stuff all the time and you have slept way too little for 5 nights

I have managed to mess up my excel sheet totally, so I had to go through every tactic to make sure that I could post the right settings.

Mainly it was the D-L for the home tactic against 4-3-2-1-1 and CD settings for DMC, MC and AC that was wrong.

Here are the corrected version 3 tactics.


Home vs 4-3-2-2-1


Defensive Line: 6
Width: 14
Tempo: 4
Time-wasting: 6
Passing: Flanks
Offside Trap: Yes
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Men CF Pass CD FWR RWB LS TTB CB TM================================================ ===============================Fullbacks 15 7 5 6 MIX OFT RAR RAR OFT NOCentral Defenders 13 4 7 14 RAR RAR RAR RAR RAR NO Defensive Midfielder 17 9 3 10 OFT MIX MIX MIX RAR NOMidfielder 19 9 1 10 MIX OFT MIX MIX RAR NOWingers 17 9 3 6 OFT OFT RAR RAR OFT NOAttackers 19 10 1 10 RAR RAR RAR RAR RAR NO</pre>


Home vs Defensive tactics


Defensive Line: 8
Width: 12
Tempo: 8
Time-wasting: 8
Passing: Flanks
Offside Trap: Yes
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Men CF Pass CD FWR RWB LS TTB CB TM================================================ ===============================Fullbacks 13 7 7 8 MIX RAR RAR MIX OFT NOCentral Defenders 11 4 9 12 RAR RAR RAR RAR RAR NO Defensive Midfielder 15 9 5 12 OFT RAR RAR RAR RAR NOMidfielder 17 9 3 12 MIX OFT MIX MIX RAR NOWingers 15 9 5 8 OFT OFT RAR RAR OFT NOAttackers 17 10 3 12 MIX MIX RAR OFT RAR NO</pre>


Home vs normal tactics


Defensive Line: 10
Width: 10
Tempo: 10
Time-wasting: 10
Passing: Flanks
Offside Trap: Yes
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Men CF Pass CD FWR RWB LS TTB CB TM================================================ ===============================Fullbacks 11 7 9 10 MIX RAR RAR MIX MIX NOCentral Defenders 9 4 11 10 RAR RAR RAR RAR RAR NO Defensive Midfielder 13 9 7 14 MIX RAR RAR RAR RAR NOMidfielder 15 9 5 14 RAR MIX RAR MIX RAR NOWingers 13 9 7 10 MIX OFT RAR RAR OFT NOAttackers 15 10 5 14 MIX MIX RAR OFT RAR NO</pre>


Away vs normal tactics


Defensive Line: 12
Width: 8
Tempo: 12
Time-wasting: 12
Passing: Mixed
Counter-Attack: Yes
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Men CF Pass CD FWR RWB LS TTB CB TM================================================ ================================Fullbacks 9 7 11 12 MIX RAR RAR OFT MIX NOCentral Defenders 7 4 13 8 RAR RAR RAR MIX RAR YES Defensive Midfielder 11 9 9 14 MIX RAR RAR RAR RAR NOMidfielder 13 9 7 14 RAR MIX RAR MIX RAR NOWingers 11 9 9 12 MIX OFT RAR MIX MIX NOAttackers 13 10 7 14 MIX OFT RAR MIX RAR NO</pre>


Away vs attacking tactics


Defensive Line: 14
Width: 6
Tempo: 14
Time-wasting: 14
Passing: Mixed
Counter-Attack: Yes
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Men CF Pass CD FWR RWB LS TTB CB TM================================================ ================================Fullbacks 7 7 13 14 MIX RAR RAR OFT MIX NOCentral Defenders 5 4 15 6 RAR RAR RAR MIX RAR YES Defensive Midfielder 9 9 11 16 MIX RAR RAR RAR RAR NOMidfielder 11 9 9 16 RAR MIX RAR MIX RAR NOWingers 9 9 11 14 MIX OFT RAR MIX MIX NOAttackers 13 10 7 16 MIX OFT RAR MIX RAR NO</pre>


Away vs ultra-attacking tactics


Defensive Line: 16
Width: 3
Tempo: 16
Time-wasting: 17
Passing: Mixed
Counter-Attack: Yes
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> Men CF Pass CD FWR RWB LS TTB CB TM================================================ ================================Fullbacks 5 7 15 17 RAR RAR RAR OFT MIX NOCentral Defenders 3 4 17 4 RAR RAR RAR MIX RAR YES Defensive Midfielder 7 9 13 18 MIX RAR RAR RAR RAR NOMidfielder 9 9 11 18 RAR MIX RAR MIX RAR NOWingers 7 9 13 17 OFT OFT RAR MIX MIX NOAttackers 9 10 11 18 MIX OFT RAR MIX RAR NO</pre>



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I know what you mean. What you say is correct, but I am just experimenting to see what works within the game. And it doesnt seem to have much to say at all. Reason that I wanted to test out the deep line at home, was to see if it could lure the AI to go more forward, leaving room for quick counter-attacks against them. Playing high away then become an automatic choice.

I am gonna test out both of them, with no other changes to the tactic to see which one works best within the game. Thanks for the feedback
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I like having a tactic for different opposition tactics, but I need a home tactic against attacking opponents and an away tactic against defensive opponents.
The way I have been doing it, is to use the "away against normal" at home, and "home against normal" away. This works to a certain degree at least. Maybe something to look into in further testing
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