Tactical Theorems and Frameworks '07

wwfan · 10-20-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by mr.rooney:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by wwfan:
<BLOCKQUOTE> I mentioned a d-line of 5 because that's what you mentioned to use if you came across a 3-3-2-1-1. I'll use a d-line of 10 for home and away and see how that goes.

Finally (It must so annoying having me question everything), you keep the same mentality/passing style/creative freedom for both home and away, correct?

And now, I'd better go to bed. I'm going into town to get FM tomorrow, but at this rate I won't even get up until midday.

Thanks for the help. :thup:

I tended to use a d-line of 10 at home, even against the 3-3-2-1-1, and 14 away, so it wasn't so different. I would love to hear how 5 works though.

Mentality/passing/creative freedom is the same home and away. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks. I promise you this is the very last question. Earlier in the thread you said that for away games you change the width to 5 and timewasting to 15. Is this what you do, or have I read wrong? :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

Spot on, although read the warning on time wasting in my first reply.

mr.rooney · 10-20-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by wwfan:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by mr.rooney:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by wwfan:
<BLOCKQUOTE> I mentioned a d-line of 5 because that's what you mentioned to use if you came across a 3-3-2-1-1. I'll use a d-line of 10 for home and away and see how that goes.

Finally (It must so annoying having me question everything), you keep the same mentality/passing style/creative freedom for both home and away, correct?

And now, I'd better go to bed. I'm going into town to get FM tomorrow, but at this rate I won't even get up until midday.

Thanks for the help. :thup:

I tended to use a d-line of 10 at home, even against the 3-3-2-1-1, and 14 away, so it wasn't so different. I would love to hear how 5 works though.

Mentality/passing/creative freedom is the same home and away. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks. I promise you this is the very last question. Earlier in the thread you said that for away games you change the width to 5 and timewasting to 15. Is this what you do, or have I read wrong? :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

Spot on, although read the warning on time wasting in my first reply. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I've read that you shouldn't timewaste as much in this game, so I'll change to 5 for home and just leave it at 10 for away, and see how that goes. I'm really now going to bed, and I'll read over this before I go out and buy the game tomorrow.

Thanks. :thup:

crazy gra · 10-20-2006, 02:38 AM

interesting point about the time wasting not being as effective in 07. i'll keep an eye on that. i've not seen the hint on it yet, although some of them i don't get time to read as they go too fast!

you mentioned the 'dreaded' 3-3-2-1-1 in your first post, wwfan. has someone told you that the opposition still use this tactic in 07, or did you just keep it in incase it does crop up? if you didn't know, then it is still rife amongst AI kill-gamers. i remember you saying that you came up against it in nearly every match on 06, and when i was near the end of playing 06 i found the same occurence. you may also like to know, in case you don't already, that the AI still uses the 4-2-4 when pressing for a goal near the end of the game. i noticed in 06 that teams always did this when i was only a goal up but then changed if i scored another. so far in 07 i've seen the AI play the 4-2-4 when i've been 2 goals up instead of just 1.

wwfan · 10-20-2006, 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by crazy gra:
interesting point about the time wasting not being as effective in 07. i'll keep an eye on that. i've not seen the hint on it yet, although some of them i don't get time to read as they go too fast!

you mentioned the 'dreaded' 3-3-2-1-1 in your first post, wwfan. has someone told you that the opposition still use this tactic in 07, or did you just keep it in incase it does crop up? if you didn't know, then it is still rife amongst AI kill-gamers. i remember you saying that you came up against it in nearly every match on 06, and when i was near the end of playing 06 i found the same occurence. you may also like to know, in case you don't already, that the AI still uses the 4-2-4 when pressing for a goal near the end of the game. i noticed in 06 that teams always did this when i was only a goal up but then changed if i scored another. so far in 07 i've seen the AI play the 4-2-4 when i've been 2 goals up instead of just 1.

Somebody posted that Reading used the 3-3-2-1-1 in the Demo so it was a safe assumption. I could therefore assume that the switch to the 4-2-4 was also likely as I couldn't see SI keeping a defensive formation switch and throwing away an attacking one. I think you'll find the switches will get less common when you have built up your reputation and lower ranked teams will stick to the 3-3-2-1-1 more than they do now.

kittipol · 10-20-2006, 06:46 AM

wwfan please analyst these screenshots. Are they cheated?

wwfan · 10-20-2006, 06:49 AM

No idea.

kittipol · 10-20-2006, 06:54 AM

oh....sorry to say it's in FM2006. the owner of these pics claim that he's not cheat.

FrazT · 10-20-2006, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by kittipol:
oh....sorry to say it's in FM2006. the owner of these pics claim that he's not cheat.

The owner is lying!

Titicamara · 10-20-2006, 09:04 AM

What about tight marking? Do you try to incorporate tight marking into your tactic?

wwfan · 10-20-2006, 09:19 AM

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Marking

In my opinion man-marking was horribly flawed in FM06. It worked perfectly until the AI switched tactics. Once that happened user defenders remained assigned to their original markee no matter where he was repositioned. Therefore, your DC may well end up man-marking the opposition’s ML. I believe this may have been fixed in ’07, although don’t quote me. Anyway, to combat this perceived problem I advise the following.

Tight-Zonal: DCs, FBs, DMC

Loose-Zonal: ML/R, AMC, FCs

This system fits nicely with the CD/CF set up in that it ensure space for front players whilst keeps the defenders tight on their men. For a more defensive system the ML/Rs could also be pushed into tight-zonal.

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