retired_aries

Good point Cleon.

I've not noticed this myself though yet. I suppose then it depends on the "mental" attributes of the players.

Perhaps a safety net then is to up the creative freedom for the thicker players (we all have them! ), is to notch it up to a maximum of 5 on the slider.

retired_thehpsleb

Yep that what I also do with hmy milan team..everyone on 5 creative freedom except Kaka , Seedorf and Pirlo who start with 10. They all got high decisions and creativity. This way the actually follow my instructions, and if things isnt going as planned I tell those 3 players to try something on there own to break up the defence(Creative freedom slider on 17-20) - they might see something on the pitch I dont

retired_elpata

Good point Cleon.

I've not noticed this myself though yet. I suppose then it depends on the "mental" attributes of the players.

Perhaps a safety net then is to up the creative freedom for the thicker players (we all have them! ), is to notch it up to a maximum of 5 on the slider. </BLOCKQUOTE>

5 is roughly what I tend to stick most of my players on aye. But it is all down to the mental attributes like you say

retired_aries

With class players like this it makes sense to have them as the ones set on high creative freedom. After all, in real-life, how often do we see them change a game with a moment of brilliance.

A good example there Joor, with players who's attributes many people are aware of. :thup:

retired_dellydoolittle

Hawshiels

1. Right the way to the left, hence "zero" creative freedom.

2. Can't say why the sliders are set to the middle from the offset TBH. It's probaly is as it is, just "default".

I have to be honest though, it has surprised me how much of a difference setting zero creative freedom to all but one or two players has made. That's why I'm interested in others giving it a whirl and commenting on what they notice. </BLOCKQUOTE>


heathxxx

what about some other team and player instructions like RWB or mentlity and TTB? -&gt; what I meen, don't then players lack in ideas and get stuck? personally it's quite weird to put it to 0. I wonder if AI plays like that.

retired_elpata

All CF is, a license to let a player decide what to do himself. If you set all his instructions up and then give him a high CF he's going to ignore what you've told him to do. So by setting it low, it means he will stick to what he's been told to do, rather than trying to be a hero.

retired_aries

It's quite interesting Mitja, because when I've used wing-backs, i've had them on zero creative freedom and they seem to follow the basics of things like through balls better. It just seems that in general, players seem to follow the letter of my game-plan better.

I've even used zero creative freedom on wingers occasionally and find that this works especially well when using a target man. In this case, it seems that my wingers then cross the ball more than previously with higher creative freedom.

retired_aries

Heh - beat me to it and made the point better than I. :thup:

retired_aries

When using run-with-ball (RWB), this is usually reserved to the few players with high creative freedom. - sorry Mitja, I missed the abbreviation.

retired_dellydoolittle

what about seting CF to 3, 5, what's the difference? I meen isn't it better to let him decide on some rare occasions (under pressure for ex.) maybe he'll try to do smth instead of just clearing the ball. did you noticed any difference?

I wrote this badly I hope you get my point