retired_aries

You're best going to the tactics forums for that...

Anyhow, I don't think Liverpool are at all under-rated in FM2008.

Through many saves I've played, (when not managing Man Utd and dominating the Premiership year on year ), they have won the league quite a few times and numerous cup competitions.

I think what your really trying to say is you've been playing as Liverpool. you're not doing very well and want some tactical help or advice. So like I said at the start of my post, best place is the Tactics forum, specifically you'll find an FM08 Liverpool thread, where people managing them all congregate and discuss tactics, players etc...

Good Luck :thup:

retired_jaclynnew1212

You know, I find it really funny that everyone is blaming Liverpool's poor performances on the American owners. Those stupid banners on matchday which are voicing out in support of Rafa, all the chanting, demonstrations against the Americans etc. It really is ridiculous.

As far as I know, the Americans really did only 1 thing wrong so far. And that was to talk to Klinsmann for the managerial post. Besides that, they've not really done anything wrong (forget the cash problems) and they've given Rafa all the money he wanted in the summer to strengthen the squad. And they have all been Rafa's signings. The Americans havent intervened like Roman has been known to at Chelsea. So why do they get all the hostility? Surely the Liverpool supporters much realise that its down to Benitez's management that the team is doing so poorly? He's been given a lot of money to strengthen and he's still managed to go backwards. He should be taking the blame and not the club owners. They deserve to be berated for the Klinsmann saga but nothing more.I still cant believe that Liverpool supporters arent calling for the head of Benitez. Today was another near embarassing performance going behind to H&W. I was hoping that they lose because then maybe we'd have seen the supporters finally agree that Rafa should go.

Oh well, good for the rival clubs I suppose. We dont have to worry about Liverpool being contenders until he's around.

natalie27

hulk, before any of this trouble between Benitez and the owners happened, Liverpool had just gone top after thumping Derby 6-0. Then all this starts and the team starts to play poorly and they move steadily down the table.

As for giving him money in the summer, well, he was told he had to sell before he could buy and his outlay after the sales this summer was around 15m, thats less outlay than the likes of WHU, Everton, Man City etc.

When the yanks took over they said they'd back Rafa with whatever he needed for what ever player, or Snoogy Doogy as they said, yet Rafa has been buying, still, his second and third choice players. They make out that they've given him more this Jan in the media but the money spent on Skirtel is the money NOT spent on Heinze in the summer.

Add to all that the fact that before they bought the club they promised no debt would be put on the club and they've gone behind their managers back approaching other managers, and it adds up to them just being a pair of liars.

If you think the performances are Rafa's fault then fine, but i urge you to look in the direction of Spurs for proof that undermining your manager leads to poor performances. Before all this happened we were top of the table and the form team, we made Chelsea look like a pub team till the ref changed the game.

retired_ldbluejay

\liverpool are overated in real life, just unfortunate for them, they could be good if there manager didnt waste so much money on so many average players.

retired_hilda

You're best going to the tactics forums for that...

Anyhow, I don't think Liverpool are at all under-rated in FM2008.

Through many saves I've played, (when not managing Man Utd and dominating the Premiership year on year ), they have won the league quite a few times and numerous cup competitions.

I think what your really trying to say is you've been playing as Liverpool. you're not doing very well and want some tactical help or advice. So like I said at the start of my post, best place is the Tactics forum, specifically you'll find an FM08 Liverpool thread, where people managing them all congregate and discuss tactics, players etc...

Good Luck :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

No, I'm not looking for what you said..

retired_jaclynnew1212

RiisesLeftFoot

Mate, I suppose you could be right to an extent. But as far as I'm aware, the first trouble that started was that Benitez demanded more money to buy players and the Yanks said no. And Benitez threw a hissy fit after that which is what got the Americans upset a bit. The Klinsmann saga is still relatively new. Not sure about it, but I think that's how the whole thing started.

That being the case, Rafa would have been better adviced to not talk about it in public. Being the manager, he should have had sense enough to know that it might create a little panic in the dressing room and affect performance. And it did. So I would blame him for that. They pretty much started to decline from then on in. Its just got progressively worse ever since the Klinsmann issue came up. Now, you being a Liverpool fan would know more about it I suppose. But thats the way I remember it from what I read. Might be wrong though.

As for the transfer money, I think even after the sales, the Yanks have shelled out close to 30M for new signings. Thats a heck of a lot of money IRL. Give Wenger 30M (not that he doesnt have it!) and I'm sure he'll get you atleast 5-6 quality players.

You cant seriously believe that Voronin (even if he was free), Benayoun, Pennant are anywhere close to being Liverpool standard players no? Yossi has been doing well off late but I still dont think he's that good. Why did he pay 11.5M for Babel when he was being touted at 6M? Thats a bit too much imo. But he does look good whenever I see him play tbh. But him and Lucas are very much players for the future. And then he goes and sells Garcia & Gonzalez for 4M each? I thought Garcia was doing great at Liverpool? Why did he sell him? Gonzalez was looking like he'll develop into a good player and yet he was sold? Like I said, I dont know as much about the club & players as you probably do, but some of the decisions made look very silly. Garcia could play either wing if I recall correctly. Benitez couldnt seriously believe that Pennant was better than him could he?

See all these little silly decisions are coming back to haunt Rafa. Not to mention the countless times he's rotated the team. Torres is the best striker in the squad and he should play every game if fit. Yet he was rotating even Torres in some games? And I recall that you dropped points in some of them. All that has effected Liverpool's title challenge imo.

See, I dont say that Rafa is the only one to blame. The Americans have to shoulder the blame too just as much as Rafa. But ALL the blame shouldnt be put on them should it? Surely you too can see that Rafa HAS goofed up many times this season? With his tactics, with his selections and with some media comments too. Not to mention his transfer window activity. Why sell Bellamy and get Voronin? Bellamy is better than Voronin as far as I'm concerned. Why does he hardly ever play Crouch in the league when he's MILES better than Voronin AND Kuyt combined? Surely he can see that Kuyt cant finish to save his life! Crouch has rescued Liverpool a few times that I remember this season already (the latest was against Derby was it?). All these decisions have got opposition laughing at Liverpool and the football pundits fuming. So why is it that everyone at Anfield is so vocal in their support for Rafa? Thats what I find funny. I'm not talking about them wanting the Yanks out. Thats all well and good. But all the undeserved support for Benitez is what gets me. Surely you should demand more from him?

Sorry for the huge post but thats what it looks like to a football fan looking from the outside. I'm an Arsenal fan and obviously I'm happy if Liverpool doesnt win since they were rivals in the race until a short while ago. But frankly speaking, I was REALLY hoping that this season Arsenal and Liverpool battle it out for the title and leave Man Utd & Chelsea behind. So its a little disappointing from that sense.

retired_yoliboop

Talhak i don't think liverpool is underrated. Name some players that you think they are underrated, because i can't find one. In my games they finish 4-7. IRL, same ...

retired_Lorri

This is thread is completely and utterfly retarted (Excuse my choice of words, and my observational skills, if someone already pointed this out...) But taking about Liverpool ingame and comparing it to real life doesn't really make sence. The discussion will be OVERLY-tainted by subjective feelings. I myself, as a Liverpol fan, will of course argue that all Liverpool players are under-rated in the game, and people who aren't Liverpool fans, will argue that they just plainly suck in real life.

On to the point. I've made the discovery, as I'm sure you all would make if you paid attention (no offens intended). That there cleary is something wrong with the game. Unless you manage Liverpool yourself, no players are brought into the club. This is clearly a bug, as over a 2-3 year period, Liverpool are sure to buy some new attentions. So obviously Liverpool can't cope with Chelseas bloodmoney and the likes of so.

Please check your game, and take a screenshot if Liverpool actual bought a player in your game. Maybe it's just my game thats bugged... But i doubt it

retired_hilda

Hay, you have to be respectful... You don't know how to speak right... First of everything you must look over that...

retired_tishsparr

First two seasons on my game they finished in 5th then 6th. I am now about to start season 2013-2014 and they have not finished above 10th since the second season thats not good. I don't know if they are under rated in the game because they are not doing to well in real life its bad when a Havant team can lead against you twice.