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Old 01-26-2008, 04:41 AM   When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given..... Post #1
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Default When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given.....

What is meant to be happening in that situation?

I honestly can't think of a real life parallel.

I'm sure you've seen it a million times. One blob has the ball. An opposing blob closes down, and moves directly next to the first blob. They stay stuck to each other for about 3 seconds (in-game time), and then the referee gives a foul. The player committing the foul is usually shown a yellow card.

This NEVER happened in FM07 (or 06, or 05...can't say about the others because i didn't play them).

What exactly is meant to be happening in that situation? Does the opposing player run up to the player on the ball, push on him, grab his shirt, pull him down...i don't get it.

And how do i tell my players not to stick to the other team's blobs, because we always get yellow cards for doing it (the other team gets them too of course, but i want to stop my team from doing it)?
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:52 AM   When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given..... Post #2
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To me it looks like one player is shielding the ball, and another is trying to get it off him. It is paralleled in real life, and yellow cards are often issued by refs because things can get a little heated up in that situation with the defending player becoming frustrated and kicking the player shielding the ball.

How to stop it? No clue. It's part of football.
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:59 AM   When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given..... Post #3
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I made a short video illustrating what i mean.

http://www.refplanet.com/stuff/stuck1.avi

Sorry i couldn't find a better example, but i'm not about to trawl through match report after match report to find a good one. If i get another good one in a match i will post it.
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:00 AM   When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given..... Post #4
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To me it looks like one player is shielding the ball, and another is trying to get it off him. It is paralleled in real life, and yellow cards are often issued by refs because things can get a little heated up in that situation with the defending player becoming frustrated and kicking the player shielding the ball.
This is exactly whats going on :thup:

How to stop it? No clue. It's part of football.
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:01 AM   When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given..... Post #5
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Originally posted by The Gaffovski:
To me it looks like one player is shielding the ball, and another is trying to get it off him. It is paralleled in real life, and yellow cards are often issued by refs because things can get a little heated up in that situation with the defending player becoming frustrated and kicking the player shielding the ball.

How to stop it? No clue. It's part of football.
Alright, i can see that. But i honestly don't see that situation coming up as often as it does in FM.

Plus, it doesn't seem to make sense that a player is moving forward, and then suddenly turns his back on the defender to shield the ball in central midfield. I honestly don't see that happen very often either.

It seems like there's some natural tendency to do this within the match engine, which is fine, if i could somehow tell my players to stop doing it. Like a "if you can't the ball off him within 2 seconds of being stuck on him, just back off, because it's an automatic yellow card if you stick to him for 3"
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:40 AM   When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given..... Post #6
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It's usually a foul or an injury or bumping into eachother.

I really ain't too concerned about my "blobs" sticking together unless the other teams blobs start to rebel against the game, stick together and turn into 1 giant unstopable blob.
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I still want to know why centre-backs, no matter what level and ability, seem to have random 'oh my god, the ball's coming through the air towards me. I'd better run over there towards Mozambique and let their striker have a clear scoring opportunity' moments.

Oh, and lets not forget, 'here comes the ball, but I don't fancy running so I'll just stand here and look pretty. Oh s**t! He's gonna score, better start ru-- too late.'
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Old 01-26-2008, 04:12 PM   When the two blobs move right top of each other, freeze there for a moment, then a foul/yellow card is given..... Post #8
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they are jostling for the ball.
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