FitnessDiva14

According to the manual Flair is defined as a player having a natural talent for the creative and occasional unpredictability. A player with a lot of flair will be one of the key attacking components in any team.

So basically does that mean a player with a lot of flair will be very good at being creative?

If thats the case, then whats the point of the creativity Attribute?

And If flair actually means how good a player is at confusing defenders with fancy step-overs, and beating players with cruijff turns, then whats the difference between flair and technique?

retired_w0lfpack1

Right, I may not be the best to answer this, but I'll have a crack at it.

I've been looking at these attributes as:

Creativity: The ability to spot an incisive, perhaps harder-to-anticipate "killer pass". A player with low Creativity will only see the "obvious", which the defense will Anticipate. (SI have also stated that Creativity impacts decision to try Long Range shots in 8.0.1)

Technique: The ability to consistently achieve given moves. For example, taking a free kick is partly "Free Kick" and partly "Technique". Making a good tackle is partly "Tackling" and partly "Technique". Successfully hitting a pass is partly "Passing" and partly "Technique".

Flair: The willingness to try an unexpected individual move: the back-heel, the step-over, a volley, an over-head kick, etc.

So, these things would combine with ones Decisions attribute. A player with high Creativity but low Decisions, Passing, and Technique .. might keep on spotting these killers balls, deciding to try them, and sending them straight to the opposition.

Likewise, a player with high Flair but low Decisions, Finishing, and Technique .. might try a spectacular overhead kick, but whiff entirely.

Hope that helps - its opinion and experience rather than anything I know "for sure"!

retired_dinalb

If you have an MC with high Cre and low flair(Xabi Alonso), he could be easly marked out and won't have a many chances to be creative. And if you have a 19 finishing striker with low flair, he won't be able to use his finishing, if he is marked out.

retired_kkdanno

I think of Flair as Tricks/The ability to do the unexpected 'highlight' moves like overhead kicks etc.

FitnessDiva14

Then shouldn't creativity simply be called vision?

So if someone has 20 for flair then it just means that they will try fancy football more often, i.e. step-overs, back-heels etc, but it gives no indication of how good they are at actually doing it?

retired_mssa007

I think it means whenever they DO try something elaborate it WILL work more often than not.

But this does not mean they will try it all the time.

Flair is a natural talent. Or a knack or being able to do something special.

A player of Flair 1 will try a back-heel and it might not find it's destination.
A player of Flair 20 will try a back-heel. It will fly right into your path, then he'll make you a cup of tea.

retired_bobo

Then shouldn't creativity simply be called vision?

So if someone has 20 for flair then it just means that they will try fancy football more often, i.e. step-overs, back-heels etc, but it gives no indication of how good they are at actually doing it? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Well yes it could be called Vision. Just a different name I suppose. You could say the same about a lot of attributes. They all COULD be called something else.

retired_sweet

That would probably be a better name for it, because that's exactly what Creativity is - vision.

The fact that there is a tactical slider called Creative Freedom just leads to confusion, imo, especially since Creative Freedom is closely linked to Flair.

As said above, Flair is the player's ability to do the spectacular; Creative Freedom is how often you want him to try it.

Other way around mate.

Though I've found players in FM will naturally be more likely to try the things they're good at and avoid the things they're poor at, regardless of your instructions.

Technique is a funny one - it seems to be like some kind of 'special bonus' that is added every time a player uses a technical skill. I'd say it is probably slightly more important than any of the other technical attributes.

FitnessDiva14

OK Thanks, I think I'm starting to understand it all now.

So if A player has 20 for flair and 1 for creativity then it would basically be a waste for this player to have such high flair, as they would have all the Ability to pull off something fancy, but they would never know when/where to do it. Basically like someone who is an incredable painter, but lacks the imagination to create a work of art. And vice versa would be a player who has all the creativity in the world, but simply is unable to pull it off successfully.

In this case I dont think creativity should be called vision, as it could refer to someone being creative but without passing. i.e. people might think (if creativity was called vision) that it only refered to a players ability to pick out a pass, rather than to have the vision to do a fancy dribble, or cruijff turn etc.

retired_\.../_METAL_\..

i think of it as like think of gerrard and lampard. both great attacking players. but would you consider them to have flair like cristiano ronaldo and kaka ?
i hope you see what i am getting at but i must admit im having a hard time finding the words to describe 'flair'.
i guess its just unpredictability, skill,talent, and just amazes people by the way they play. i would say c.ronaldo does this, but even gerrard, as good as he is doesnt really 'wow' me.