KingsbayYHPE

Now, you've just gone and revealed yourself, glamdring. LLM can't be switched on and off like a light.

You is or you ain't. There's no in between.

retired_mrsjb

Isn't it possible to play as Newcastle in a manner that is consistent with being a LLaMa?

I have never started as a Premier team, but I did once start with Norwich. I used made up players to make my prior knowledge fuzzy, and played LLM style. Now , that's not LLM, but I don't feel it's inconsistent in style. When it comes down to it I'd rather earn the Carrow Road hotseat, but I always hope for a chance to be there at some point in my games.

Besides which, some of us have managed Liverpool in LLM games, right?

KingsbayYHPE

Some of us started that save at Leigh RMI and played 23 seasons before Liverpool ()

What you say's true, you can play top teams in the LLM style, but there's a fundamental difference in that and having a "non-LLM" game to play alongside an LLM one.

"non-LLM" is the big pitfall.

It spills over. You is or you ain't :cool:

retired_marcias

I don't see any reason why an individual can't play different games in different styles. It's no different to multi-tasking in other aspects of life or studying English and Maths or whatever else, but I guess that is just my opinion.

Managing PSV Eindhoven or Sunderland or whoever in one game in no way affects me managing a conference team in another game.

You have to switch on and off between every LLM game otherwise you carry knowledge through from the previous game. It still comes down to your own self-control in how you play any individual game. I can say with 100% certainty that going from managing PSV with the tactics, training and everything else I develop there to managing Shrewsbury is easier than going from managing Hereford to managing Shrewsbury in a different game were I have to forget all about what worked well in training at Hereford and what worked well tactically since the same will probably work equally well at Shrewsbury...on the other hand there is no conflict of interests on the front at all from a PSV game because using PSV tactics and training for Shrewsbury would make no sense at all.

If a LLama can manage to "forget" all they knew and found out in a previous LLM game why can't they do likewise from a previous non-LLM game, and if they can't I fail to see how they can from one LLM game to another personally.

In the days of updates I see loads of people with their team having got into the Champions League etc - I don't doubt they got there in a 100% LLM way, but once you are there you do the same things you would if you had happened to start off managing a top team.

KingsbayYHPE

Okay.

KingsbayYHPE

Look, that last post may look dismissive, but I'm just old and tired. We've been through this argument dozens of times, and in the most cases it's true. You can't mix the two, by the two I mean "playing ManUre from the start, but in an LLM style" and "playing ManUre from the start, but in a non-LLM style"

I'm not about to tell you the difference between playing an LLM game to the extent you play in the CL and starting off in a position where that's inevitable, I'm certain you know all about that.

I've done it so many times, I'm not about to argue now.

Hence the "okay"

retired_mrsjb

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by iajafer:
Some of us started that save at Leigh RMI and played 23 seasons before Liverpool ()

What you say's true, you can play top teams in the LLM style, but there's a fundamental difference in that and having a "non-LLM" game to play alongside an LLM one.

"non-LLM" is the big pitfall.

It spills over. You is or you ain't :cool:<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're not wrong there. I think the key point is to play as a LLaMa wherever you happen to be. If you leave Leigh for Liverpool, it's imperative that you take your principles with you. You is or you ain't as you say :cool:

retired_marcias

I'm not necessarily disagreeing as regards what is a true LlaMa or not - I'm quite willing to accept not being a LlaMa, just someone who plays lower league management most of the time with the occasional other game if that's the general opinion and if that automatically disqualifies me from giving any valid opinions in LLM threads that is fine too. I just enjoy CM my way and let others enjoy it their way

KingsbayYHPE

Wasn't trying to chase you away, glamdring, and I hope you stay. "Being a LLaMa" isn't the reason for posting here, its "
For managers that enjoy the challenge of bringing a lower league team to the top - without the need for tipping, cheating or bragging. ]" and there's many different ways of doing that within the LLM "Code".

If you enjoy a "non-LLM" game as well as an LLM one, and one doesn't sully the other, then good on you. :thup:

retired_pmetzger1

I am broad minded enough to accept that some people believe that they can have LLM and non-LLM games on the go.

My question really is, why would you want to? If you play LLM properly it is the most satisfying way of playing. Why settle for an inferior version if there's no "cost" to having the higher quality?