Junior214

Isn't it refreshing to have a few threads worth reading in GQ the moment :thup:.

Player ratings.

Match engine.

(See what you can do Mitja when you stop moaning).

Critique of transfer mechanism.

Player development.

When was the last time that there were 4 decent threads on the first page of GQ at the same time. </BLOCKQUOTE>

One man can only do so much. It appears that man is Ched!

Amen to that. But even now there aren't that many responses in these excellent threads. Maybe that's what is keeping the level of discussion high - threads not degenerating into slanging matches within 5 posts.

retired_2symonds

I don't think shouting out "Haw! Go to http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5211026...922044673#8922044673" is going to go down very well

retired_dbaguado

I don't think shouting out "Haw! Go to http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5211026...922044673#8922044673" is going to go down very well </BLOCKQUOTE>



How many staff are there in the SI office Ter?

retired_dellydoolittle

Or a mail has gone round about a feature posted on the forums that we're discussing via e-mail. Which happens a lot. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Isn't it refreshing to have a few threads worth reading in GQ the moment :thup:.

Player ratings.

Match engine.

(See what you can do Mitja when you stop moaning).

Critique of transfer mechanism.

Player development.

When was the last time that there were 4 decent threads on the first page of GQ at the same time.

Maybe if there were more of them and less in the style of the opening post of this thread, then the FM World would be a happier little place. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I would add 5th one;

http://community.sigames.com/eve/for...7/m/6432087473

retired_rdgclerk

oh goody another windge thread.

FM08 is a good game. ok its not perfect but if you think you can do better make your own game.

These people have spent ages making this series and i will applaud them. There are bugs but get over it!

Emm

Mitja. That thread isn't even in GQ.

retired_halfshell69

I don't think anybody has ever claimed they can do better.

It's just that we don't want to see the series decline, and IMO this has been a low point. While CM4 was heavily bugged, that at least had a massive new feature, FM08 just doesn't seem finished.

Not that i agree with this thread at all btw.
I think this was just a bit of complacency on SIs behalf due to the lack of much reasonable competition, i don't think it had anything to do with FM Live...which, due to the fact this has been answered, makes me wonder why this thread is still open....

retired_STRIDER

I think I have to agree with the original post.

During the weeks leading up to the release of EHM 2007, I noticed a significant drop-off in SI's presence. Then the game came out, and it just didn't seem on-track with what they'd produced in the previous two years... not to mention how riddled with bugs it was(many of which still exist, and unlike FM, are guaranteed to never get fixed).

And then FM08 starts arriving, and SI is still very quiet. ...Then FM08 is released, and in a very unsatisfying state to many of the users here. And they still remain quiet(except in threads like this that question their activity).

Sorry to say it SI, since I've been a huge fan for a while... but there has definitely been a noticeable drop from what you guys where just a couple years ago.

retired_mgavlick

Different development teams, with the exception of the engine, on which both versions live or die. This should mean that the dual development will improve the quality of the engine as SI will have much greater conception of how the user base actually plays. Bugs that may not have been picked up in testing for FM alone (due to the limited nature of the tactics being employed by testers) might well be exposed in FML.

retired_sbromfield

That's right wwfan.

Fact is, using the match engine in two very different contexts helps it's progress in both. In FML people tend to play some wild formations, and are generally more attack-minded. This pushes the match engine in ways it doesn't get pushed so often inside FM and thus brings to the fore any issues relating to this. When these get addresses, future releases of FM benefit as the ME becomes more solid as a result.

Certainly, FML has no negative impact on the development of FM, as it's an entirely different development and test team.

Any problems people have with FM are nothing to do with FML, but the vast majority of the evidence, both statistical and critical is that FM2008 is our best release to date. That doesn't mean we are blind to any problems being reported on these forums by the most ardent fans of the game, which we are always very grateful for and the lads on the FM team are and have always been committed to improving the game and if there is something being brought up on the forums repeatedly it *will* get discussed amongst the team.