Leandro Davide

I want to start a game with the mighty Barca but I have a few question before I want to start making a tactic.

I want to let the team play in a sort of 4-3-3/4-5-1 formation, looking a bit like they play IRL.

Playing a game with Barca should be relativly easy for many of you but for me it's a challenge. You can put me in the catagory of "Tactic building dummy´s" cause I find it really hard to make my own tactics. (I´ve read all of the Tactics Bible so don´t just give me link to that )

IMO the formation should look like this:

F1:



F2:



Playmaker:



IMO Barca always uses a midfield playmaker, this role is usually for Deco or Iniesta. Ronaldinho always plays AML.

Barca always plays Short passing and in a rather Quick tempo. But after I read all of the Tactic Bibles everyone says that Short passing NOT works with a Quick tempo So how I should cope with that?

My other questions are:

How should I set Closing Down and Wide? I think I will set my defensive line a bit over normal and look at my scout reports before the match to see what they see about the the strikers of the team I play against.

Other tips or suggestions are also welcome.

Benoit2

Passing and tempo are indeed linked, but with a team with so much quality like Barca, feel free to try different things

Also, are you sure Barca play quick (meaning they attack as soon as they have the ball), rather then passing the ball quickly? (which needs extremely short passing).

With the pace of Puyol, it might be worth to play a pushed up defensive line with offside trap on. If you're defending high up the pitch, you need to win the ball high up, so you need high closing down.

I would also suggest you to stick to just using team instructions for now and leave player instruction alone (unless you really need a certain tweak). Just keep it simple, you'll be amazed how great that can work.

evoh_1

i would say barca played a mixed tempo they play slow controlled football then quick counter-attacking football. also barca often play with marquez or edmilson in the DMC position distributing play, and they always look for ronaldinho as a playmaker and this is reflected in his stats as well.

Luketa

Wait a minute: Does quick tempo mean that your players look to attack as soon as they get the ball?? Because I always thought that it meant pass the ball quickly...

Justified

See it as "urgency" to attack. You know how Italians always play that boring "let every teamember touch the ball before attacking" football? That's slow tempo, waiting around until a gap appears and exploit it.

Benoit2

Wait a minute: Does quick tempo mean that your players look to attack as soon as they get the ball?? Because I always thought that it meant pass the ball quickly... </BLOCKQUOTE>

Common misstake.

FourThreeThree

I don't understand why quick tempo cannot work with short passing. Works for me. Just look at La Liga and how they counter attack, lots of them are either short passing or direct yet at a very high counter attacing tempo. Quick tempo is how fast a player releases a ball from his feet so if you are short passing just make sure you have enough players in an attacking position.

I see Barcelona as playing a DMC style 4-3-3 and I don't see them playing fast tempo. Maybe it is just thier attacking style and the amount of attacking players they have that makes it look like fst tempo but thier players spent more time on the ball than any other team. They have the quality to do it anyway.

I think Xavi and Deco plays as the two attacking MC's while Ronaldinho at the left wing and Giuly right (Messi too).


___________________Saviola______________
ROnaldinho_________________________Giuly
___________Xavi___________Deco__________
________________Edmilson________________
____DL______DC____________DC_______DR___

A modern set-up where today some teams play thier wingers not as wingers as we know but more as attacking midfielders just like Robert Pires and Lyundberg in the Arsenal set-up where they even would charge the oppositon penalty box just like how an AMC would.

:cool:

FourThreeThree

From a passing perspective that is what would happen. Quick tempo generally is a quick build up to an attack. Slow tempo, your team would take thier time in building up an attack.

:cool:

Dayle Wood

Leandro - Hi, I play with Barcelona as one of my teams and your above formations are the exact ones that I use. The top one for home and the bottom for away.

My first season with them was a transitional one and I finished 3rd, but last season I won the league AND the Champions league so I am happy that the formation works for them.

My playmaker was not the AMC though (although this season it will be). Last season I used either Xavi or Steven Gerrard as my playmaker in the central midfield role with a strong DMC type player alongside him (Tomas Sivok). That worked well as Gerrard direct the tempo and fed the ball to any of the 4 options in front of him.

Ronaldinho has a free role on the left wing as that allows him to come in at will and terrorize the opposition. I had Eto'o alone up front and allowed him to dribble and run often as he can beat multiple players and cause havoc like your've never seen!

The away tactic is a classic direct game with counterattacking but is still very aggressive.

This formation is pretty lethal mate, don't let anyone tell you different.

Tip: Pedro Leon works hard on the right and assists and even scores regularly, so he comes recommended.
As dones Micah Richards and Raul Albiol in central defence.

sarabia