Help! Can no longer win games

Abi101 · 02-07-2007, 01:14 AM

I've started my third season playing with Chelsea and won the premier division last season. And now I'm 5 games into the new season, 1 win, 1 draw, 3 loses. Nothing I do seems to help get results.

I haven't made any major changes to the team over the off season, got rid of Wayne Bridge (constantly unhappy) which the fans aggreed with and brought in a lower level D RLC to act as cover for injuries.

In the run up to the start of the season I won all 3 friendlies, 6-0, 4-1, 4-0, then beat Arsenal 6-0 in the community shield so I thought it was going all right.

Then the premier division started...
Loss - Newcastle 2-4
Draw - Liverpool 2-2
Win - Shef Utd 2-0
Loss - Portsmouth 1-4
Loss - Tottenham 1-3

Can anyone give me some advice on how to turn things around? Man Utd have won 5 from 5 so it'll be the worlds biggest comeback to regain the crown.

Thanks in advance

retired_imkristyk · 02-08-2007, 01:51 PM

It could be a number of things. Poor individual player form, new players that don't quite fit into your tactic.

I had a similar problem. Its almost like the opposition managers figured out how to play against me, although I hadn't won the Prem previously. Anyway I changed my tactic and I'm 2 games into the season and I've won 2, beating I think it was Sheff utd 6-1 at home. The back end of last season after i changed my tactic i beat man utd 3-0 at home.

I could be wrong but perhaps the AI figures out how to play against your tactic, therefore testing your tactical knowledge trying to find another way to win?

retired_kathylc2000 · 02-08-2007, 03:10 PM

It happened to me with Ajax: Won everything at the start, then all of a sudden, I couldn't win anything, got knocked out of the CL, in the league, 5 straight draws, all of which I lead just before the end... Then I got sick and tired and started a new game with a new club...

That's my advice

retired_liliana · 02-08-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Shelf_Side:
It could be a number of things. Poor individual player form, new players that don't quite fit into your tactic.

I had a similar problem. Its almost like the opposition managers figured out how to play against me, although I hadn't won the Prem previously. Anyway I changed my tactic and I'm 2 games into the season and I've won 2, beating I think it was Sheff utd 6-1 at home. The back end of last season after i changed my tactic i beat man utd 3-0 at home.

I could be wrong but perhaps the AI figures out how to play against your tactic, therefore testing your tactical knowledge trying to find another way to win?

The AI does not "crack" your tactics. What happens is, as you get more successful, teams start being more defensive against you, and that demands a tactical response, if you want to be as effective as before. Personally, I use a set of 6 tactics, based around the same formation. I use three for home matches (defensive, normal, and offensive), and three for away matches (same deal). Occasionally, when odds heavily favour one side, I'll use an away variation at home, or a home variation away, depending on the situation.

Abi101 · 02-09-2007, 04:17 AM

so I'm guessing that the three 'away' tactics would be a more defensive approach?

Abi101 · 02-09-2007, 04:24 AM

Oh and I just finished my 30th game in the PD, 17 won, 5 drew, and 8 loses. Coming 4th with 60 goals for, 36 against and 56 points. Arsenal 1st, Man U 2nd and Tottenham 3rd. Hoping for a 2nd place finish, Arsenal are a bit out of reach on 67 points with 2 loses.

I switched to a 4-4-2 setup holding the back row deep and defensive with the AMs running up alot more. Also switched back to last seasons training, seeing as I won the division last year I thought it couldn't hurt.

Also paid through my teeth to get a hold of Rooney... worth every cent

retired_liliana · 02-09-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by breaker:
so I'm guessing that the three 'away' tactics would be a more defensive approach?

Yes. And the three home tactics are offensive (even the "defensive"). The difference between the variations are just mentality, d-line and time wasting.

retired_janae55 · 02-09-2007, 03:10 PM

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The AI does not "crack" your tactics. What happens is, as you get more successful, teams start being more defensive against you, and that demands a tactical response, if you want to be as effective as before. Personally, I use a set of 6 tactics, based around the same formation. I use three for home matches (defensive, normal, and offensive), and three for away matches (same deal). Occasionally, when odds heavily favour one side, I'll use an away variation at home, or a home variation away, depending on the situation.

As you can notice, he's managing Chelsea and Chelsea are already at the top right from the start, so I don't agree that teams only start playing defensive against Chelsea in the 3rd season. =] You may bring in some new faces and just change a tactic. Personally I get bored using the same tactic for so long and i change tactics once every 1 or 2 seasons. Works a treat.

retired_liliana · 02-09-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by ubos:
<BLOCKQUOTE>The AI does not "crack" your tactics. What happens is, as you get more successful, teams start being more defensive against you, and that demands a tactical response, if you want to be as effective as before. Personally, I use a set of 6 tactics, based around the same formation. I use three for home matches (defensive, normal, and offensive), and three for away matches (same deal). Occasionally, when odds heavily favour one side, I'll use an away variation at home, or a home variation away, depending on the situation.

As you can notice, he's managing Chelsea and Chelsea are already at the top right from the start, so I don't agree that teams only start playing defensive against Chelsea in the 3rd season. =] You may bring in some new faces and just change a tactic. Personally I get bored using the same tactic for so long and i change tactics once every 1 or 2 seasons. Works a treat.

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Chelsea is not free from form problems, which can change the way your opponents view you. Also, re-ranking affects all teams, even Chelsea. I never start from anywhere other than the lowest league possible, so I obviously have never managed Chelsea, but I believe even them have space to grow in terms of the inner rankings of the game, and therefore will progressively meet more conservative formations along the way.

Don't forget that all the other teams are ranked too, and if Chelsea are winning it all they're probably going down the ranks a bit, which also increases the gap.

retired_janae55 · 02-09-2007, 03:55 PM

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Chelsea is not free from form problems, which can change the way your opponents view you. Also, re-ranking affects all teams, even Chelsea. I never start from anywhere other than the lowest league possible, so I obviously have never managed Chelsea, but I believe even them have space to grow in terms of the inner rankings of the game, and therefore will progressively meet more conservative formations along the way.

Don't forget that all the other teams are ranked too, and if Chelsea are winning it all they're probably going down the ranks a bit, which also increases the gap.

Lol. If you are one of the best teams in the game, you have no need to change your tactics at all. You can go 17 or 18 seasons into the game and you still do not have a need to change your successful tactic from your first season. Re-ranking is something more drastic for mediocre to lower teams, as their positions can change easily. Top teams can just play the same tactic and stay with it forever.

Help! Can no longer win games

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Help! Can no longer win games