jcb23

I'm having a week of firsts here.

Today, one of my defenders just obstructed a forward in the penalty area, and a free kick was awarded. Never seen it in CM before. Something I've never seen ever is that said obstruction is then deemed a professional foul and he is sent off. Every sending off for an offence in the penalty area that I've seen IRL has been a penalty kick.

I need to get my rulebook out on that one :eek:

mugsy

i am a football referee (prepared to be flamed), was the obstruction deemed to be denying a goal scoring opportunity or was it deemed reckless? (if so then he could be sent off) though i doubt it from what you have said.

just wandering did they score from the indirect free kick?

jcb23

No. They did not score.

Since you're a ref, I'll ask you. If the offence was considered a "professional foul" you would have to assume it denied a goalscoring opportunity. Why was it not a penalty?

It looked like (in glorious 2D) the defender made a tackle, but didn't clear the ball and obstructed the striker from taking the ball closer for a shot.

seamus

That's quite a 2D look of that jcb. did you get multiple replays?

Maybe Doug will wander in and answer. He claims to be a referee too.

mugsy

it sounds like a penalty but like all refs say its down to the interpretations of the ref at the time. each case has to be taken on merit, whilst you need consistency you never get exactly the same offence taking place.

i wonder how you could come up with the scenario where someone is denied a goal scoring chance through obstruction, but if it did happen i would give a penalty just to make things easier.

Craig0

Video evidence! Why don't you save the match and upload it and let mugsy make his own mind up.

mugsy

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Video evidence! Why don't you save the match and upload it and let mugsy make his own mind up. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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MFCMark

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mugsy:
it sounds like a penalty but like all refs say its down to the interpretations of the ref at the time. each case has to be taken on merit, whilst you need consistency you never get exactly the same offence taking place.

i wonder how you could come up with the scenario where someone is denied a goal scoring chance through obstruction, but if it did happen i would give a penalty just to make things easier.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Law 11 means you can be dismissed for obstruction if it denies a goal scoring opportunity.

A player is sent off if he commits any of these 7 offences, one of which is 'denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the players goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or penalty'.

Obstruction, or 'impeding an opponent' is of course punishable by an indirect free kick.



So I hope you never 'just give a penalty to make things easier' in front of an assessor!

MFCMark

Most people know I'm ref, rather than just having an obsessive knowledge of the laws of the game for no reason!

jcb23

Is that a case where the famous "interpretation" comes in to it, Mark?

My first thought when it happened was that it was correct to the letter of the law. However, I've watched an awful lot of matches in my time and I don't think I have ever seen that happen, which is what really amazed me, and led me to wonder if there is a subtlety there that the AI (and myself) had missed.