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Old 05-25-2004, 08:02 PM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #1
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I step forward again to test the waters of knowledge and experience that is the LLM forum. In my first real foray into LLaMahood (you gents didn't seem too enthused about my first choice - Brentford), I consulted Frank for a club, and he sent me to Bohemians Prague, 2nd division Czech squad. I started the game as a Czech manager.

I got sacked there after a year and a half, and I applied for many jobs. The only club desparate enough to take me was Banska Bystrica, a 1st division Slovak side that was staving off relegation. I took the job with full knowledge that if we got relegated, I was sacked again since I had decided to run only Slovakia's first division. We escaped relegation and I spent 5 seasons working my way up the Slovakian table, eventually qualifying for Europe. I applied for no other positions during this time, and rejected the 2 or 3 offers from 2nd division teams in my native Czech Republic. I developed wanderlust, and a hope that someone outside the Balkans would notice me.

Then I got the call from Wacker Tirol in Innsbruck. This was a squad that was bankrupt and in receivership but despite these facts, I jumped at the opportunity to escape central Slovakia.

Now I am here in the Alps, with no money, no chance of acquiring decent players and relegation staring me squarely in the face.

My question to the forum is how likely was it that the Tirol offer was just the first of many from clubs outside Slovakia? I had developed a "very good" reputation at Banska Bystrica. I appear to have surrendered the pleasure of being a big fish in a small pond, to being a sick and hungry fish in a slightly bigger pond. How likely are offers from squads based outside of your home country?

Please forgive me for the length of this message. And if this one is considered bragging or a desparate appeal for tipping, then feel free to liberally douse me in flames!
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Old 05-25-2004, 08:27 PM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #2
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red,

Since you started the game as a Czech manager, your options for job offers are going to be few and far between outside of the former Czechoslavakian nations. And it's not surprising, to me at least, that your first such offer came from a league that's only slightly larger. The only way you'd get an offer in say, Germany, is if you landed an international management position first.

If your profile had been set to German nationality to begin with, I'd give good odds that as soon as you hit "good" reputation, you would have started attracting the attention of the mid-tier Bundesliga sides.
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Old 05-25-2004, 09:14 PM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #3
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For a moment, i thought this was another update thread :o

I guess manager nationality has a big part in landing jobs outside your home nation. It's always a good idea to start a game having a different nationality than the country you start playing in - you'll thus have at least 2 nations' job offers guarranteed.
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Old 05-25-2004, 09:38 PM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #4
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kfoolmoon:
For a moment, i thought this was another update thread :o

I guess manager nationality has a big part in landing jobs outside your home nation. It's always a good idea to start a game having a different nationality than the country you start playing in - you'll thus have at least 2 nations' job offers guarranteed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that why you're Portuguese in the Iberian clan game? :p
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:08 PM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kfoolmoon:

I guess manager nationality has a big part in landing jobs outside your home nation. It's always a good idea to start a game having a different nationality than the country you start playing in - you'll thus have at least 2 nations' job offers guarranteed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hadn't thought of starting as a nationality different than my home club. In fact, in an obscure attempt to maintain a sense of realism, I purposely decided to make myself Czech for this game. Good thing to keep in mind for future LLM adventures.

The neat thing I have found about this, my first real LLM experience, is that you never really can anticipate which way the tides might carry you. When I bowed before Frank initially to have my fate selected for me, I thought I would get some impossible situation to try to correct.

As luck would have it, Bohemians Prague was a strong 2nd division squad that was expected to achieve promotion. It didn't take much as far as my stewardship to get them promoted. Then suddenly, the infamous sacking and I end up in a place that doesn't show up on most maps. Now 6 years later, I have ended up with a club that fits what I initially anticipated from Frank, an "impossible situation to try to correct".

And that my friends is one of the reasons I am addicted to this game! :cool:
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Old 05-25-2004, 10:33 PM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #6
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jcb23:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kfoolmoon:
For a moment, i thought this was another update thread :o

I guess manager nationality has a big part in landing jobs outside your home nation. It's always a good idea to start a game having a different nationality than the country you start playing in - you'll thus have at least 2 nations' job offers guarranteed. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that why you're Portuguese in the Iberian clan game? :p <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who said i'm taking my own advise?
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Old 05-26-2004, 04:25 AM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #7
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red,

Don't worry, normally I take the nation I start in as well. But I do often make an exception if I'm starting in a minnow nation like you did.
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Old 05-26-2004, 05:59 AM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #8
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Hmm, no wonder I never get many offers in 03-04. I always put my real nationality in. Not that I would ever take an MLS job even if it were playable but... I guess I will need to try taking a different nationality and see how I fare.
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Old 05-26-2004, 07:36 AM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #9
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I like going in as a dutch manager, not sure maybe it's the belief that they are more level headed, or that when ever you watch the african nations cup 1/2 the managers seem to be from Holland.

And in some strange way I belive that if it play as a dutchman i'll get international offers from african nations (not that it takes skill and football managment tallent to get a job or anything)
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Old 05-26-2004, 11:31 AM   If it's Tuesday, this must be Slovakia Post #10
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In general I select Northern Irish as my Nationality for UK and Ireland Games, and games in the old British Empire. However for mainland Europe I tend to select either Belgian or Dutch irrespective of where in Europe I start. I always have the English and Scottish leagues running with Belgium, Holland and my selected league with a few of the leagues close to my selection. I have never had a problem with getting jobs, even after a multitude of sackings over the years.
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